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Old 12-01-2018, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Rust'n in Tustin
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Originally Posted by Tulemutt View Post
If “history is a pretty good indication of the future” then 10,000 years of history proves all political ideologies are miserably flawed.
I'm 60, I care about the next 50 or 60 years for my kids and grandkids. Not the last 10,000.

 
Old 12-01-2018, 08:58 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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I'm 60, I care about the next 50 or 60 years for my kids and grandkids. Not the last 10,000.
Brilliant reply. You manage to entirely miss the point of what the past 10,000 years has to teach us about how to live in the present with our kids and grandkids ... and what to teach them about how to face their future.

In your view the Hatfield’s should just keep shooting across the gulch at the McCoy’s ... believing them to be the root cause of all the feuding.

And the McCoy’s feel the inverse.

And the wheels on the history bus go round and round.
 
Old 12-01-2018, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Rust'n in Tustin
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Brilliant reply. You manage to entirely miss the point of what the past 10,000 years has to teach us about how to live in the present with our kids and grandkids ... and what to teach them about how to face their future.

In your view the Hatfield’s should just keep shooting across the gulch at the McCoy’s ... believing them to be the root cause of all the feuding.

And the McCoy’s feel the inverse.

And the wheels on the history bus go round and round.
Typical liberal, they're the smartest people in the room. Just ask them
 
Old 12-01-2018, 09:44 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Typical liberal, they're the smartest people in the room. Just ask them
That it all must be so labeled to you exactly confirms my point.
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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. - George Santayana
You have no concept of why I hold H.W. Bush 41 in high regard while condemning D.J.T. do you?
You don’t grasp the lessons of anthropological science either.

It’s all just libruls and conservatives to you. You are a Hoffer True Believer if there ever was one.
 
Old 12-01-2018, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Rust'n in Tustin
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Listen captain of industry, we get it. You're an old liberal.

You seem unwilling to see the world around you. I'm out.
 
Old 12-01-2018, 11:05 PM
 
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Dems let ton of illegals flood into California and allows them to vote
Essentially that’s what they want to do, that is the end goal. No ID. No registration. Guaranteed millions of votes.
 
Old 12-01-2018, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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Essentially that’s what they want to do, that is the end goal. No ID. No registration. Guaranteed millions of votes.
Erm lots of Republicans, the big business variety, e.g. the Koch brothers, are big fans of endless cheap labor and they oppose efforts to enforce our immigration laws. So let’s be honest about both parties.
 
Old 12-02-2018, 12:09 AM
 
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Erm lots of Republicans, the big business variety, e.g. the Koch brothers, are big fans of endless cheap labor and they oppose efforts to enforce our immigration laws. So let’s be honest about both parties.

Koch Brothers are just Republican donors. You and I both know if illegals are allowed to vote or if voter laws changes where anybody can vote, it would hurt the GOP. It's very clear, crystal clear listening to politicians on both sides which party supports open borders / illegal immigration and border enforcement / deportation. This only cements Democrats control of California.
 
Old 12-02-2018, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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Koch Brothers are just Republican donors. You and I both know if illegals are allowed to vote or if voter laws changes where anybody can vote, it would hurt the GOP. It's very clear, crystal clear listening to politicians on both sides which party supports open borders / illegal immigration and border enforcement / deportation. This only cements Democrats control of California.
That is certainly true regarding the democrats and their stated intentions regarding the border.
 
Old 12-02-2018, 09:13 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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Personal Responsibility is key here. So many liberals want to keep the Government out of their personal life.
I believe that you have your political parties mixed up.

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They don't want the Government telling them what they can do with their bodies.
One would hope that NO ONE would want the government telling them what they can do with their own bodies. And if you'd prefer that you do want this, you need to re-read the 14th amendment.

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Yet, as you are alluding to, those same people run to the Government for help.
I alluded to nothing of the sort. You concluded it. I pointed out the hypocrisy.

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The Government is a terrible care taker. Running to the Government for help and assistance has not helped anyone.
Yeah, yeah. Veterans' rights, Medicare, Social Security, public education, fire and police protection...."has not helped anyone," right?
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