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View Poll Results: Do you think California should split into multiple states?
Yes, split it into 2 states. Call one "North California" and the other "South California" 68 30.36%
Yes, split it into 2 states. Give one of the 2 states an entirely new name. 14 6.25%
Yes, split it into to 3 or more states. 35 15.63%
No, leave it as one state 101 45.09%
Other 6 2.68%
Voters: 224. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-08-2008, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Lettuce Land
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What's really ironic is that years ago if the British navy had been two weeks earlier sailing into Monterey Bay we would have probably ended up as commonwealth members of the United Kingdom, similar to Canadians. But the Brit tars dallied in another port too long and US Navy Commodore Sloat, recently back from Hawaii, beat them to it. Thus his fleet defeated the token force of Spanish soldiers "defending" the harbor [actually not much happened] and we ended up U.S. citizens, instead. Either way we would have still been Californians.

Back OT, we really are made up of a least three distinctive geographical and economic areas - with all the competing interests that implies. But we will never be allowed to sensibly divide ourselves into political subdivisions that make sense. There's too much money and "power" at stake for that to be allowed to occur. If we can't have reasonable assembly districts then we'll never have responsible state government. Our "betters" in Sacramento won't let us. And once elected they are in office for life - they think.
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Old 08-08-2008, 07:35 AM
 
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Old 08-08-2008, 07:38 AM
 
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Old 08-08-2008, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL and smalltown Ohio
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I have a "love hate" relationship with California. Lived in So Cal for a few years and loved the weather but hated the high cost of living and taxes. If California split into two states with the Northern half starting around Mendocino County and the southern half including everything south all the way to the Mexican border I'd probably seriously consider a move to the new state of Northern Cali
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Old 08-08-2008, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Lettuce Land
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If California split into two states with the Northern half starting around Mendocino County and the southern half including everything south all the way to the Mexican border I'd probably seriously consider a move to the new state of Northern Cali
Actually the most discussed demarcation line was just below Kern County and through the Techachapi mountain range - so you'd be out-of-luck there. And as you didn't say but probably already know, any other part of the state that was included with Bagdad-by-the-Bay would be doomed to second-class status for life anyway. So it ain't gonna happen, I'm betting.
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Old 08-08-2008, 10:23 AM
 
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Parts of Southern Oregon and Northern California have a group of people that want to make their own state. They want to call it Jefferson.

Jefferson - The 51st State - Northern California / Southern Oregon - A State of Mind

I'd move their if they'd do it.
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Old 08-08-2008, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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LA and SF pay more taxes on their own than the entirety of your "new California." Broke does not mean "tax paying." Tax paying implies working. SF works. LA works.
Well, let those places pay their taxes for their bloated government and nanny welfare state and the rest of us can be more self sufficient and keep our hard earn cash.
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Old 08-08-2008, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Parts of Southern Oregon and Northern California have a group of people that want to make their own state. They want to call it Jefferson.

Jefferson - The 51st State - Northern California / Southern Oregon - A State of Mind

I'd move their if they'd do it.

Me too.
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Old 08-08-2008, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Parts of Southern Oregon and Northern California have a group of people that want to make their own state. They want to call it Jefferson.

Jefferson - The 51st State - Northern California / Southern Oregon - A State of Mind

I'd move their if they'd do it.
I agree. Nice places like Eureka and Arcata have lots of beautiful redwood trees and abundant rainfall, and friendly down to earth people. They should not be dragged down with the rest of California. Let's send the top 1/3 of California to the Pacific Northwest where it belongs so it can be free at last!

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Old 08-09-2008, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Kingwood, Texas
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The question should be: Should California split from the United States? YES
here here!
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