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If I don't believe this, it wouldn't matter. Me and my beliefs have no bearing on your gospel...unless of course your gospel is a lie. See?
What? You kept saying "what if I believe...?" You were very concerned that if you (and now you've included an atheist who has become a believer) believe in God and that God will save all, then they will be eternally tormented by God.
I'll ask you again: WHY would God eternally torment anyone for believing in God or that God will save all?
Where does the Bible say, that people will be damned who believe in universalism?
Not even Augustine did go so far, he acknowledged that the universalists of his day did not in fact deny the Holy Scriptures, but interpreted them milder. I will search for the passage if you not believe me.
Where does the Bible say, that people will be damned who believe in universalism?
Nowhere that I'm aware. Maybe Gal. 1 and Jer. 6.
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Not even Augustine did go so far, he acknowledged that the universalists of his day did not in fact deny the Holy Scriptures, but interpreted them milder. I will search for the passage if you not believe me.
edit: sorry, misread. I want a guarantee because if you're wrong and I believe your lie, I want to swap places with you.
This makes no sense, chuck.
You think that if you believe that God will save all (as I do) you will be condemned to eternal torment. And you want to swap places with me then? Where do you think I'll be?
That God is God, and you are you. Don't try to swap roles.
Cop-out!..just like every other ETer who has tried to answer...as I mentioned in the first post and you fell into the same 'best' response when I told you I was looking for more..I've already explained in previous posts why this is illogical. So I'm assuming that your 'reformed theology' agrees with every point (all 1-8) that I listed?
You think that if you believe that God will save all (as I do) you will be condemned to eternal torment. And you want to swap places with me then? Where do you think I'll be?
If I see no reason to flee from the wrath to come and unto Christ for my salvation AND you're wrong, guess where I'll be.
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Then why did you keep saying you wanted a guarantee that you wouldn't end up being damned for believing it?
