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Why would you call life crap? This is my problem with religion. It promises this amazing afterlife to justify so much human suffering. But if you accept it and keep quiet, you'll be rewarded in heaven.
You're wasting your precious few years of existence on this nonsense. Enjoy your life, as when it is over, there is nothing else. Let's make this word, this life a better place instead of waiting for a payoff that never comes.
look I was having a bad day. I was just saying with the pitfalls of existence sometimes the bad outways the good. I normally don't even do social medias but was in significant pain so posted crap. I don't have religion problems as a matter of fact am strengthening my faith. But thank you for what you are saying because I believe as well but direct and indirect behavior are to different things.
and being underemployed no jobs insight and double standards kind of makes a person to take things a little more serious than those whom backstab and dumb dumb society. That's all I am saying.
but fair is FAIR and will agree with what you are saying about justifying human suffering. No one should suffer so much as many do now days. ok!
I personally do because I love people and would love to meet lots of people and build friendships with them in Heaven, I do know the only way to Heaven is through Jesus Christ and accepting Him as your Lord & Savior and turning away from your sins.
The mainstream concept of hell is a misunderstanding of God's Word. All will eventually be saved. God doesn't fail to save anyone.
Errrrr... I seem to recall that is only 144000 that'll make it into the blissful ever after.
Then you misunderstand the scriptures also.
1Ti 2:3 for this is right and acceptable before God our Saviour,
1Ti 2:4 who doth will all men to be saved, and to come to the full knowledge of the truth;
The 144000 mentioned are when speaking of the Temple that Christ comes to. It is not a reference to all that will ever be saved.
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Then you misunderstand the scriptures also.
1Ti 2:3 for this is right and acceptable before God our Saviour,
1Ti 2:4 who doth will all men to be saved, and to come to the full knowledge of the truth;
The 144000 mentioned are when speaking of the Temple that Christ comes to. It is not a reference to all that will ever be saved.
Actually Rev says
7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
7:5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
7:5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
And so on listing all the tribes of Israel.
Read a little further.
Rev. 7
9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands; 10 and they cry out with a loud voice, saying,
The mainstream concept of hell is a misunderstanding of God's Word. All will eventually be saved. God doesn't fail to save anyone.
So then why does everyone care so much about how people are living on earth? What's the point of following the bible/rules/etc. if everyone gets saved in the end?
7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
7:5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
And so on listing all the tribes of Israel.
yep, that is the Temple. Those are the verses I'm referring to. Again, there is nothing in those verses saying that is all that will ever be saved.
So then why does everyone care so much about how people are living on earth? What's the point of following the bible/rules/etc. if everyone gets saved in the end?
Because they still get saved THROUGH Christ. There is no other way but through Christ. Also a real Christian cares for a real Christian is of Christ.
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