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Then you admit that you can be wrong. Which means I can be right. And no I don't have comprehension issues. Just another need to insult someone's intelligence to look superior huh?
Then you admit that you can be wrong. Which means I can be right. And no I don't have comprehension issues. Just another need to insult someone's intelligence to look superior huh?
You're....interesting. In a Ripley's kind of a way.
We most certainly ARE animals. We are primates. Our other primate cousins are orangutans, gorillas, chimpanzees and bonobos.
This is fact.
We may be classified by man as being an animal but the Scriptures show clearly that our potential is much greater.
There is the plant kingdom, the animal kingdom but mankind actually has the potential of being born into the God Kingdom.
Genesis 1:
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
John 1:
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
John 10:
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
We humans are actually "spiritual ovums" or "God eggs" with a chance for some of us now to receive supernatural life by receiving the very Life of God through God's Holy Spirit. Once a person receives God's Holy Spirit which combines with our human spirit then he/she is on their way to growing in the character and the very mind of God Himself. God is actually reproducing Himself through mankind.
So, our potential is far beyond any animal or even the angels. In fact those who are born into the very Family of God will judge angels.
1 Corinthians 6:
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
It is so vital that the true saints put all sins like adultery, homosexuality, etc completely out of their lives and live godly lives based on the principles of righteousness found in God's Word -- basically they must live by every word of God. And the true Saints of God DO keep the Commandments of God as Revelation 14:12 states:
Revelation 14:
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
There was a reason why the Israelites were forbidden to marry as they did not believe in the True God. God knew if the Isrealites did intermarry with them, then the result would be the Israelties would turn away from the true God and worship pagan Gods.
This was not due to racial reasons but religious reasons. Yet the Israelities did that and worshiped pagan gods and turned against the True God of Israel.
With regards to Ruth, yes she was a non Jew but she believed in the true God and became assimilated into Israelite society.
With regards to animals that possess homosexual characteristics, does it also set the moral standard for humans to to the same such as: Since animals kill and eat each other, does this set a moral standard for people to do the same?
Since numerous species kill and eat their own young, does this justify people killing and eating their own babies? I once had mice and at one time the mother mouse ate all her babies.
Of course the pro gay Christian argument is that Jesus never said anything about homosexuality while on Earth. Yet Jesus did not address Child sexual abuse, drug abuse, nor pornography, smoking, spousal abuse, or torture. Does this fact therefore condone such sins and atrocities?
You claim the Old Testament is wrong in prophecy, yet the best example of a prophecy that proved true was it did predict the coming of Jesus on Earth as well as his death and resurrection.
I do not buy into the concept of Liberal or Conservative Christian. Either you are Christian or not.
Yet as a Christian we are required to change our views since turning to Christ and asking him to be your personal saviour:
Rom. 12:2 tells us to “be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.”
All I have to say that not only the Lord has transformed me, he has also healed me of suffering many years of depression.
The pro Christian argument is that God made gays in every species and He loves and wants them to be Christian as well. He didn't make them to live alone tormented by their sexual orientation and reminded of it constantly by people claiming to be His followers.
And my purpose in pointing out Jesus said nothing about homosexuality is to highlight that it simply wasn't a serious issue to Him just as He wasn't concerned about humans in His day eating their young. He talked about what He saw as SERIOUS issues, such as misinterpreting and using scripture negatively against any sinner, of failing to see His message was total dedication of one's own self to God. He didn't give The Great Commission as "Go into the world condemning all sinners because that will make them see me!"
Praise God that you no longer have depression. My guess is you still have sexual needs, needs you didn't "choose" to have, but ones that still pull at you. Did you choose to be homosexual? At what age? Do you think heterosexuals wake up in puberty and say, "Hey, I'm going to like the opposite sex?" If not, why did God choose to make you gay?
Study some about hoe fundamentalism in the U.S. Version of Christianity arose. It started late in the nineteenth century and came to full fruition in the early seventies. It is a reactionary movement to scientific discoveries that some used to point out scriptural "science" inconsistencies. All Christians for centuries have held to inspiration of scripture, but not plenary inspiration. God reveals Himself through flawed men and their flawed writings. But scripture must be rightly discerned. The bible is about spiritual truths, not necessarily about history and certainly not about scientific or sociological issues.
And if you think all OT prophecies were correct read the prophecy about Tyre, and then what really happened.
Inspiration is in the scripture, but it is discovered by those who search, who go beneath the superficial words. It is for those with eyes to see and ears to hear. It is rarely easy to discern and that is why so many are caught up in trivialities that Jesus ignored while missing His main message of loving others AS THEMSELVES. Jesus didn't tell the disciples to point out the sins of every person they met. He told them they would do the same things He did--and greater.
It's your responsibility to keep your own sins (whatever the Holy Spirit convicts you of), and not to worry about the sins of others. And those sins are different from one person to another. Some denominations teach that using alcohol is a sin. I have never committed a sin when I picked up a glass of wine or a mug of coke and rum. But when I set that mug down and pick up a fork, I am faced with sin. But many aren't faced with the sin of the fork, but the sin of the bottle. Should I who suffer from the sin of the fork start a thread about how awful people are who overuse alcohol? Is that the sin that should be in the forefront of my mind to publicly speak out about? Should I be so wound up and condemning of alcoholics that suddenly my own sin is minor? After all, being overweight doesn't pose the potential of drunk driving and its frequent adverse results. Isn't my sin "less" than the alcoholic's?
Or should I look at my own sin more deeply to see that gluttony leads to diabetes and other serious health issues which cost all of my "neighbors" (as Jesus sees who our neighbors are) more to buy health insurance and perhaps that would exclude some from even being able to afford it at all? After all American Christians as a whole aren't standing up for health care for all---it's more important to concentrate on condemning the sins of homosexuals. It's more important to God to see a halt to the "gay agenda" than to see the poor fed, the sick attended to without leaving them bankrupt, and to make sure bank executives get their stock bonuses than people get help with their mortgages and student debts. After all American Christians believe in prioritizing sins and concentrating on what's most important--your sin or my sin, the sin of all homosexuals who love someone of their own sex---but never their own.
When you see the Bible speaking to people like that, you can be sure for all its inspiration, it is in the hands of people don't understand it all.
One of the great ironies that God has played on us is that He chose a homosexual to be the underwriter and distributor of the most widely found version of scripture---the King James Version.
The good King James was himself a homosexual. The following is taken from www.Greatsite.com a website for finding rare Bibles and chockful of information about early personages of the English translations. You will have to search under English bibles for King James I
In the 1580s, King James openly kissed Francis Stewart Hepburn, Earl of Bothwell. Contemporary sources clearly hinted their relationship was a sexual one. When James inherited the English throne from Queen Elizabeth I in 1603, it was openly joked of the new English monarch in London that “Elizabeth was King: now James is Queen!” If there is still any doubt, it should be noted that George Villiers, also held an intimate relationship with King James, about which King James himself was quite open. King James called Villiers his “wife” and called himself Villiers' “husband”! King James died in 1625 of gout and senility. He is buried in the Henry VII chapel in Westminster Abbey, with one of his favorite male suitors on his right, and another on his left.
One of the great ironies that God has played on us is that He chose a homosexual to be the underwriter and distributor of the most widely found version of scripture---the King James Version.
The good King James was himself a homosexual. The following is taken from www.Greatsite.com a website for finding rare Bibles and chockful of information about early personages of the English translations. You will have to search under English bibles for King James I
In the 1580s, King James openly kissed Francis Stewart Hepburn, Earl of Bothwell. Contemporary sources clearly hinted their relationship was a sexual one. When James inherited the English throne from Queen Elizabeth I in 1603, it was openly joked of the new English monarch in London that “Elizabeth was King: now James is Queen!” If there is still any doubt, it should be noted that George Villiers, also held an intimate relationship with King James, about which King James himself was quite open. King James called Villiers his “wife” and called himself Villiers' “husband”! King James died in 1625 of gout and senility. He is buried in the Henry VII chapel in Westminster Abbey, with one of his favorite male suitors on his right, and another on his left.
Ain't God ironic!!!
You should never promote sin if you are a true Christian but rather reprove it. Sin brings on curses and eventually death -- the 2nd Death.
You should be ashamed of yourself for promoting this sin on a Christianity forum.
You should never promote sin if you are a true Christian but rather reprove it. Sin brings on curses and eventually death -- the 2nd Death.
You should be ashamed of yourself for promoting this sin on a Christianity forum.
Wake up!
Here's the deal: You get to believe whatever the heck you want to believe.
But when anyone (you, me, some guy is Omaha) has to resort to threats (of any kind, including the threat of eternal damnation) to get others to believe a certain thing, or to stop someone from speaking what he believes... it's a sign something is all kinds of messed up.
Last edited by DewDropInn; 12-21-2014 at 08:46 AM..
Here's the deal: You get to believe whatever the heck you want to believe.
But when anyone (you, me, some guy is Omaha) has to resort to threats (of any kind, including the threat of eternal damnation) to get others to believe a certain thing, or to stop someone from speaking what he believes... it's a sign something is all kinds of messed up.
A person commits an offense of intimidation, if that person knowingly communicates a threat, or false report of a pending fire.
Crimes closely related to intimidation are menacing, coercion and terrorizing, putting the victim in fear or apprehension of harm.
Freedom of religion, was never meant to give a person the right to threaten other people.
You should never promote sin if you are a true Christian but rather reprove it. Sin brings on curses and eventually death -- the 2nd Death.
You should be ashamed of yourself for promoting this sin on a Christianity forum.
Wake up!
You believe in curses? Do you realize how helpless, primitive, and superstitious that sounds?
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