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Old 12-21-2014, 05:45 PM
 
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Heard this story on NPR the other day:
Micropolis: Rejected by Religion, Saved by God - WNYC


Jennie Livingston, director of "Paris is Burning," the classic documentary which explored the underground world of voguing and ballroom, said LGBT youth are disproportionately homeless.

"Who do they get thrown out by? Generally the religious parents. And it's ironic, it's sick, it's really unfortunate. I don't know how those parents define what love is, or what the inner principles of those religions are," she said.

 
Old 12-21-2014, 05:48 PM
 
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We are discussing a sin against God and not discussing individuals (including myself) except the ones that are examples that God gives in His Word.

John the Baptist told Herod that his marriage was not lawful and Herod's wife saw to it that he got his head chopped off. Should any Christian expect any kinder treatment from the world?

Now, in some cases like Sodom and Gomorrah, God puts to death every man, woman and child if the sins are severe. Let's not kid ourselves. We are created for God's purpose and we should never forget that He owns everything -- even our lives and everything we claim that we possess.
In other words, you would rather talk about others?
A prime example of Christianism; and its loving-kindness.


Are you a sentient being with a conscience, capable of thinking for yourself?
Or have you lost consciousness, having no feeling for even your own loved ones?

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Old 12-21-2014, 06:07 PM
 
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In other words, you would rather talk about others?
A prime example of Christianism; and its loving-kindness.


Are you a sentient being with a conscience, capable of thinking for yourself?
Or have you lost consciousness, having no feeling for even your own loved ones?
Have you ever read the Bible?
 
Old 12-21-2014, 06:09 PM
 
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Heard this story on NPR the other day:
Micropolis: Rejected by Religion, Saved by God - WNYC


Jennie Livingston, director of "Paris is Burning," the classic documentary which explored the underground world of voguing and ballroom, said LGBT youth are disproportionately homeless.

"Who do they get thrown out by? Generally the religious parents. And it's ironic, it's sick, it's really unfortunate. I don't know how those parents define what love is, or what the inner principles of those religions are," she said.
I already know gay men that have been thrown out of their homes and rejected by their fathers. Yet God will judge them just as he will eventually judge everyone. He knows everyone motives and hearts are. Yet not all people who claim they are Christian or have been to church all their lives have Christ living in them.

However Jesus said:
I tell you that in the same way, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.Luke 15:7"
 
Old 12-21-2014, 06:22 PM
 
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God loves us all including homosexuals. He has created us all. He would not create any of us if he did not hate us. Yet he wants all of us to turn to him. He is reaching out to everyone of us. Everyone including homosexuals.

Love definition in the Bible:
1 Corinthians 13:4-8
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. 8 Love never fails
We are all required to love:
1 John 4:8
Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.

Also when we turn to Jesus we are also are to repent as we all have been sinners.

Also there would be joy in heaven over just one sinner who repents:
Luke 15:7 ESV / 25 helpful votes
Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.

God sent Jesus into Earth not to condemn it but to save it: John 3,17, So who believes in Jesus is not condemned: John 3:18, Jesus is our subtitute; he took our sinful nature, for the wages of sin is death:Romans 6:22.

Jesus has given us a free will and it is either to follow him or not. The consequences of what we choose in life is for him to judge.
Do you condemn to Hell someone you love?
 
Old 12-21-2014, 06:26 PM
 
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Heard this story on NPR the other day:
Micropolis: Rejected by Religion, Saved by God - WNYC


Jennie Livingston, director of "Paris is Burning," the classic documentary which explored the underground world of voguing and ballroom, said LGBT youth are disproportionately homeless.

"Who do they get thrown out by? Generally the religious parents. And it's ironic, it's sick, it's really unfortunate. I don't know how those parents define what love is, or what the inner principles of those religions are," she said.
Studies have shown that between 40-50% of homeless teenagers are LGBT. They've also show that about 33% of these kids turn to prostitution and drugs within days of living on the street.

If you've ever wondered by gay people have higher rates of alcohol and drug abuse, mental health issues, and HIV/AIDS than society in general, you have your answer. Gay kids being rejected by their family and communities is devastating.
 
Old 12-21-2014, 06:44 PM
 
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Have you ever read the Bible?
...from beginning to end, multiple-times, and over twenty-various translations.

Nowhere, does it say, "You shall not think for yourself."
 
Old 12-21-2014, 07:01 PM
 
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...from beginning to end, multiple-times, and over twenty-various translations.

And, nowhere does it say, "You shall not think for yourself."
But it does say that you are to live by every word of God:

Deuteronomy 8:3
(3) And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.


Matthew 4:1-4
(1) Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
(2) And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.
(3) And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
(4) But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.


Obviously, those who are committing the sin being discussed in this thread are NOT living by every word of God.

And as far as one thinking for themselves:

Proverbs 3:5-7
(5) Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
(6) In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
(7) Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.
 
Old 12-21-2014, 07:32 PM
 
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But it does say that you are to live by every word of God:

Deuteronomy 8:3
(3) And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.


Matthew 4:1-4
(1) Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
(2) And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.
(3) And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
(4) But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.


Obviously, those who are committing the sin being discussed in this thread are NOT living by every word of God.

And as far as one thinking for themselves:

Proverbs 3:5-7
(5) Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
(6) In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
(7) Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.

Believing that the Bible is the final or definitive authority is not a prerequisite.

If you are not walking with the Spirit, it is doubtful that you are hearing his voice.
 
Old 12-21-2014, 07:37 PM
 
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Believing that the Bible is the final or definitive authority is not a prerequisite.

If you are not walking with the Spirit, it is doubtful that you are hearing his voice.
Isaiah 8:20
(20) To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
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