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Old 01-20-2011, 10:02 PM
 
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Of course its addictive, duh....If you ever could prove that its not physically addictive, you could never prove its not mentally addictive. And if its mentally addictive providing for a physical need, it becomes physically addictive.
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Old 01-21-2011, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Doctors and scientists say that it is not physically addictive. No matter how you squeeze it, or twist it, it can not become physically addictive. No matter how badly you want a rock to become water; you can not make a rock become water.

Can someone drive themselves into becoming psychologically addicted to pot? I suppose. I have seen people who were mentally addicted to cutting themselves. Is a knife an addictive substance? No, the knife is not addictive, however there are mental disorders where it is possible.

There are many well documented psychological disorders; many of which demonstrate addictive behaviors.

Guns do not kill people, people kill people.

Spoons do not make people fat, people make themselves fat.

Non-addictive substances do not make people addicts; people with mental disorders may conform themselves into addictive behavior.

I am not saying that addictive substances do not exist, of course some things are addictive; but the OP of this thread is about a substance that has been tested and researched for decades and has proven itself over and over again as non-addictive.
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Old 01-21-2011, 09:20 AM
 
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Of course its addictive, duh....If you ever could prove that its not physically addictive, you could never prove its not mentally addictive. And if its mentally addictive providing for a physical need, it becomes physically addictive.
Are you saying there's no valid or practical use for marijuana?
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:02 PM
 
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Default Archeology discovered Hashish incense, did Jesus inhale?

12-23-2010 Pat Robertson, voice of sanity in the Drug War
“We’re locking up people that take a couple of puffs of marijuana and the next thing you know they’ve got ten years – they’ve got mandatory sentences and these judges, they throw up their hand and say ‘What can we do, it’s mandatory sentences.’ We’ve got to take a look at what we’re considering crimes, and that’s one of them. I mean, I’m not exactly for the use of drugs, don’t get me wrong, but I just believe criminalizing marijuana, criminalizing the possession of just a few ounces of pot, and that kind of thing, I mean it’s costing us a fortune, and it’s ruining young people. The young people go into prisons, they go in as youths, and they come out as hardened criminals.”



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Old 04-27-2011, 08:35 PM
 
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Well gambling is not talked about in the NT as the post is talking about too, and it ruins lives, but this smoking pot and cigarettes thing in the modern church, God must think, I guess pot and crack and meth tooo?, they will have to come up with different sections for it,

I once saw a pastor, he led hundreds in a drug treatment program, he taught a 12 step Bible, he got up and said, I am a sex addict and a drug addict, and every one was like great ya hoo, I thought, all the cig buts out front, lots of people using in the room when they leave, some got there chip from the church about being sober a year, or week, and I couldn't firgure out when I had friends there how they had gotten the bible in 12 steps for people now.

They were all drug addicts at one time and no one even the pastors running things had know drug free life completley, many of these people who were using at the church were there, and mixed with those who didn't, some quit for a while others longer, but they seemed to think it was ok, even though they said pot wasn't, but then I guess if the pastor was a sex addict and drug addict, even though he didn't mean that exactly, but it was strange hearing him say it all the time, and so many in the church into porn and other things and keeping it quiet in groups and things, it is a wierd thing all this stuff now...a real different place people asking the questions they do.

Is killing someone ok, why or why not?

Is stealing cars ok with God, why or why not?

Can I drive stoned or not, does God allow this or not?

If I live with my boy friend is it ok, why or why not?

Got to wonder how far God must be for the real stuff in the bible like, women having long hair, and praying with your head covered, and not speaking in the church as the thread leader said, man if getting thru drug addiction question is tough imagine actually understanding the Word?
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:41 AM
 
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Of course its addictive, duh....If you ever could prove that its not physically addictive, you could never prove its not mentally addictive. And if its mentally addictive providing for a physical need, it becomes physically addictive.
You're full of ****. Please provide LEGIT medical UNBIASED studies to back up your absurd and dishonest claims.......
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:04 AM
 
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... Is killing someone ok, why or why not?
Murder is forbidden by the Bible and our laws.

Killing on the other hand, is more of a grey area.

This is also off-topic.



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... Is stealing cars ok with God, why or why not?
God says not to.

This is also off-topic.



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... Can I drive stoned or not, does God allow this or not?
Operating any dangerous equipment while intoxicated is stupid.

This is also off-topic.



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... If I live with my boy friend is it ok, why or why not?
God forbids sex outside of marriage.

However God also refuses to define the process of how to 'get married'. God left that to our culture.

There is only one wedding described in the Bible. [In Ruth] And it clearly is not used as a guideline for modern weddings.

There are many wedding parties mentioned in the Bible. Jesus opened his earthly ministry by providing the booze to such a week-long party.

The one wedding in the Bible, did not have any clergy, and it had no witnesses. Marriage is a commitment between two people.

Fortunately our nation still recognizes them as 'common law' marriages.



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... Got to wonder how far God must be for the real stuff in the bible like, women having long hair, and praying with your head covered, and not speaking in the church as the thread leader said, man if getting thru drug addiction question is tough imagine actually understanding the Word?
I consider all addictions to be bad.

However this thread is about a non-addictive substance, so dragging the discussion into addiction is kind of off-topic.

On the other hand I do agree that anyone with their mind clouded is not going to be in full control of their thinking.

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Old 04-28-2011, 10:03 AM
 
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On the other hand I do agree that anyone with their mind clouded is not going to be in full control of their thinking.
I agree FB. That has to do with an individual's sense of responsibility. If the mind is clouded and not in full control, then it is their responsibility to avoid conditions that could potentially create a risk or an endangerment to their own or to others. The same thing applies to any medications that can cause drowsiness or impair one's abilities to react safely.
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Old 04-28-2011, 05:31 PM
 
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I agree FB. That has to do with an individual's sense of responsibility. If the mind is clouded and not in full control, then it is their responsibility to avoid conditions that could potentially create a risk or an endangerment to their own or to others. The same thing applies to any medications that can cause drowsiness or impair one's abilities to react safely.
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Old 04-29-2011, 12:38 AM
 
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But when you are high all the time, how do you know your high, how do I figure out what to do with God then, well light another bowl, and firgure out am I high or not too high, or am I responsibly high now, let me have some of that joint got to firgure out if I am responsible enough with God now, oh, well I havnt tried the brownies, well I am not sure, I will pray and fast, oh well the brownies, oh well, I will just pray ..... oh no, i am so hungry, pass the joint or the bible, oh give me both I think better about God when I am high, oh, call my friends have a high study, oh, oh, what do I do now, bong thats better, I will pray about which one to get too... lol .... oh my I am not sure God is laughing about all this can a Christian smoke, but another 400 posts and we will get to the bottom of it, lol

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