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View Poll Results: Which one is the most important?
Bay Area 286 58.37%
Boston 90 18.37%
Philadelphia 93 18.98%
Confused 21 4.29%
Voters: 490. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-01-2011, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Wow. Feel better? You can play the same game with Philly and Boston and you know it. Personally I don't have the time to waste, but I'm glad you did it for SF. Always nice to took your own horn, yes?

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There are many factors involved.

Despite the insistence by some who wish for the rest of us to believe that these 3 cities are exactly alike and basically equal in every regard, we know that's just not true.

The Bay Area has a significantly larger economy than either of the other 2. That can't be dismissed no matter how people want to pretend its insignificant.

With regards to relevance in today's economy, we know the Bay Area is considered the world center of high technology, but is also a center of banking and finance, telecommunications, energy, media, apparel, pharmaceuticals, biotechnology, tourism, trade & commerce, medical research, transportation, education, manufacturing and so on....EVEN Agriculture with the Napa Valley(A suburb of the Bay Area) being North America's premier wine producing region.

As a result of having such a high concentration of so much wealth producing industry, the Bay Area is also one of the affluent regions in the world, and has one of the highest concentrations of billionaires, centimillionaires and multimillionaires in the world. In fact in the entire American continent, north and south, the Bay Area is 2nd only to New York as far as the number of resident billionaires. And that does not elude people of color as the Bay Area has the 3rd highest number of high income minorities in the nation behind only NY and LA-despite being 6th in total population.

The Bay Area has more foreign born residents than Boston and Philadelphia combined, and is 3rd behind NY and LA and that is no small fete in the least no matter how people try to minimize that. The Bay Area has no racial majority and 7 of the Bay Area's 11 counties have no racial majority--its not just a urban phenomenon here. Racial and Ethnic diversity sweep well into the deepest reaches of this metro region. There are cities 40, 50, 60, 70 miles from Downtown SF that do not have White majorities. That is also a highly uncommon occurence for a US metro region, even in 2011.

But it doesnt stop there.

The Bay Area is blessed with one of the most beautiful natural setting of any place in the world and a climate that is sublime.

But that still is not the end.

San Francisco is an urban jewel that is world reknowned as an elegant, sophisticated, charming, unique urban environment, with highly coveted views at nearly every turn, vibrant streetscenes teeming with activity and the entire region is packed with cultural and recreational amenities of every kind.

Still, the things to talk about don't end there.

Let's start in 2011 and work our way back. Today the Bay Area is currently known as revolutionizing social media, wireless devices, giving people around the world a platform to express themselves for free on youtube, facebook, twitter, etc. The region is also a leader in reneweable energy, solar energy, electric cars etc. A little over a decade ago, the Bay Area blew the roof off of the internet with the dot-com explosion which eventually ended in a bust(but that's the nature of SV) but many of the world's biggest brand names such as Google and Yahoo were cemented in our global pscyche at that time. Prior to that, in the 1980s, the Bay Area made a name for itself in the fight to bring environmental issues to the forefront. In the 1970s it was the issue of gay rights and the Black Panthers, in the 1960s, it was the hippie and psychadelia movement which sought to have people think and live outside the box and protest against the ills of the vietnam war. In the 1950s, SF was the home of the beat movement which was a major American literary and social movement. In the 1940s, the Bay Area was one of the principal locations for shipbuilding and manufacturing for WW2 and the story of "Rosie the riveter" was born in the East Bay and served as a battle cry for millions of women across the country to go to work in the absence of men who were off fighting the war and the United Nations was founded in SF at this time. In the 1930s, the Bay Area was one of the biggest symbols of FDRs new deal with the construction of the Golden Gate and Bay Bridge, showcasing to the world American ingenuity and images were shown around the world. In the 1920, the television was invented in San Francisco by Philo T. Pharnsworth. These are seminal modern events that directly shaped America into what is now.

And we could still go back further.
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Old 11-01-2011, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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Its just not the same. In 2011, there is a clear leader among this group of 3 and its on the West Coast.
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:37 AM
 
Location: NY-NJ-Philly looks down at SF and laughs at the hippies
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Its just not the same. In 2011, there is a clear leader among this group of 3 and its on the West Coast.
These are the type of comments that cause arguments.

In 2011, there is NOT a clear leader. SF is slightly above Boston and Philly for importance in my opinion (one tier above, if not all 3 in the same tier). All three are world class, SF does not dominate Boston and Philly like your posts makes people assume.
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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These are the type of comments that cause arguments.
Only people who have no stats or facts to back up what they say feel the need to 'argue'.

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In 2011, there is NOT a clear leader. SF is slightly above Boston and Philly for importance in my opinion (one tier above, if not all 3 in the same tier). All three are world class, SF does not dominate Boston and Philly like your posts makes people assume.
2010 GDP
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland $544 Billion
Boston-Worcester-Manchester $430 Billion
Phildelphia-Camden-Vineland $366 Billion

26% larger than Boston(despite being smaller in population), 48% larger than Philadephia(despite being only 20% larger in population). That's not 'slightly' anything.

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Old 11-01-2011, 11:26 AM
 
Location: NY-NJ-Philly looks down at SF and laughs at the hippies
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Only people who have no stats or facts to back up what they say feel the need to 'argue'.
Practice what is preached. The only stats you posts are wealth/GDP driven.

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2010 GDP
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland $544 Billion
Boston-Worcester-Manchester $430 Billion
Phildelphia-Camden-Vineland $366 Billion

26% larger than Boston(despite being smaller in population), 48% larger than Philadephia(despite being only 20% larger in population). That's not 'slightly' anything.
I'm aware SF has a larger GDP. GDP is not the only factor of criteria to judge importance.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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I'm aware SF has a larger GDP. GDP is not the only factor of criteria to judge importance.
Money talks and you know what walks.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:32 AM
 
Location: NY-NJ-Philly looks down at SF and laughs at the hippies
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Money talks and you know what walks.
For what is posted with GDP facts, it should be understood by the actual poster first.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:50 AM
 
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Based on stats, currently, the Bay Area.

Now, let's revisit this in 2040.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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Based on stats, currently, the Bay Area.

Now, let's revisit this in 2040.
I doubt we'll see much difference.

It will still be:
1 Bay Area
2 Boston
3 Philadelphia
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:59 AM
 
Location: NY-NJ-Philly looks down at SF and laughs at the hippies
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I doubt we'll see much difference.

It will still be:
1 Bay Area
2 Boston
3 Philadelphia
The Bay Area is losing importance. Tech jobs are going overseas.
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