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Parts of Upstate are just an extension of New England IMO. Culturally, ethnically, politically, mentally. Except for sports teams. Yeah, Boston teams are popular but NY is first no doubt.
Parts of Upstate are just an extension of New England IMO. Culturally, ethnically, politically, mentally. Except for sports teams. Yeah, Boston teams are popular but NY is first no doubt.
It can be tricky, as the parts of Upstate around Buffalo can have a little bit of a Midwestern vibe, but I agree for the most part. We even had the ESPN radio station here broadcast Red Sox games.
It actually gets "Midwesterny" to me around Syracuse. Thats when it gets flatter, even though yes parts of downtown have hills, especially around the university. From the Hudson Valley to Albany, then west through the Mohawk Valley through Utica, its more "New Englandy" vibe. Utica, Schenectady, Troy, Albany, Poughkeepsie could all be in New England.
They even say "pop" past Syracuse, in Rochester and Buffalo.
It actually gets "Midwesterny" to me around Syracuse. Thats when it gets flatter, even though yes parts of downtown have hills, especially around the university. From the Hudson Valley to Albany, then west through the Mohawk Valley through Utica, its more "New Englandy" vibe. Utica, Schenectady, Troy, Albany, Poughkeepsie could all be in New England.
They even say "pop" past Syracuse, in Rochester and Buffalo.
True.....Syracuse is actually pretty hilly. For instance, I grew up in Onondaga Hill and there are neighborhoods/areas in the city of Syracuse like Tipperary Hill, Lincoln Hill, Bradford Hills, Prospect Hill and of course University Hill. South of Syracuse is full of hills and valleys too.
True.....Syracuse is actually pretty hilly. For instance, I grew up in Onondaga Hill and there are neighborhoods/areas in the city of Syracuse like Tipperary Hill, Lincoln Hill, Bradford Hills, Prospect Hill and of course University Hill. South of Syracuse is full of hills and valleys too.
Accents too. Youd think you were in the Midwest just by hearing them.
Accents too. Youd think you were in the Midwest just by hearing them.
Yeah, somewhat. I went to college in Michigan for a few years and there were some similarities. I would still say that the mentality is still, by and large, Northeastern though. Minus the stereotypical pace, for the most part.
As for a New England type of vibe/feel in the Syracuse area, places like Cazenovia, Skaneateles, Fayetteville, Manlius, Marcellus and Hamilton, among a few other areas, would fit. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Skanea...66.63,,0,-2.67
Yup, its totally a matter of opinion. Personally, I see California as better with its natural scenic features while I find New York's human element more interesting. In fact, I am wondering what you mean by "Old World/provincial culture "?
Of course California also has great cities, which combined with the huge amount of nature; the long coastline, numerous mountain ranges, unique forests etc. makes California tops here in the United States. However, I do not agree with the poster who thinks this makes California (or New York for that matter) have a higher quality of life than anywhere in the world. We have too many problems in this country nowdays.
Btw, I think New York has good food too!
I didn't really know how to say it, but the ethnic family lines are stronger on the East Coast than the West...generational irish, Italian, etc who tend to still marry others from their own background. The Northeast in general is pretty provincial, especially New England, compared to the West also.
No doubt NY has great food & restaurants, but I don't think the actual quality of produce, Farmers Markets, etc can be matched elsewhere in the US compared to California.
I didn't really know how to say it, but the ethnic family lines are stronger on the East Coast than the West...generational irish, Italian, etc who tend to still marry others from their own background. The Northeast in general is pretty provincial, especially New England, compared to the West also.
No doubt NY has great food & restaurants, but I don't think the actual quality of produce, Farmers Markets, etc can be matched elsewhere in the US compared to California.
This isn't necessarily completely true. You will find interracial/interethnic couples throughout NY State. It isn't as cut and dry as people think and this goes back decades.
Also, NY State has plenty of high quality produce. Plenty of apple orchards, vineyards, mucklands and so on. Plenty of dairy farms and more. What is cool is that you can live in an Upstate city and go to these places within minutes. Wegmans gets much of their produce from local farms and there are plenty of Farmers Markets throughout the state as well. It is pretty impressive given that NY State is 30th in land size.
This isn't necessarily completely true. You will find interracial/interethnic couples throughout NY State. It isn't as cut and dry as people think and this goes back decades.
Also, NY State has plenty of high quality produce. Plenty of apple orchards, vineyards, mucklands and so on. Plenty of dairy farms and more. What is cool is that you can live in an Upstate city and go to these places within minutes. Wegmans gets much of their produce from local farms and there are plenty of Farmers Markets throughout the state as well. It is pretty impressive given that NY State is 30th in land size.
Yeah, which a very big portion accounts for two state parks.
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