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Because the Metro isn't city proper,Im talking about city proper vs city proper
Fine, but that's the same nonsensical comparison that makes Jacksonville so much more of a city than it really is. This also doesn't make sense for LA in that you'd be removing places like Long Beach, Santa Monica, Culver City, West Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Inglewood, Pasadena, Glendale, etc. which are very much functionally a part of LA.
Fine, but that's the same nonsensical comparison that makes Jacksonville so much more of a city than it really is. This also doesn't make sense for LA in that you'd be removing places like Long Beach, Santa Monica, Culver City, West Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Inglewood, Pasadena, Glendale, etc. which are very much functionally a part of LA.
True but those aren't L.A city proper either,it's the L.A area at best and to some degree we can use L.A as a county when defining it as a whole.
City proper is what matters, nobody is thinking about Suffolk County when you mention NYC
That makes no sense. Metro area comparisons are most reasonable, because they are apples to apples. City proper comparisons are arbitrary and useless. It would be like looking at LA and ignoring Beverly Hills, Universal City, West Hollywood, Santa Monica and the like.
And obviously people do consider Suffolk County as part of the NYC metro. That county, in many ways, is more "New York" than NYC proper.
That makes no sense. Metro area comparisons are most reasonable, because they are apples to apples. City proper comparisons are arbitrary and useless. It would be like looking at LA and ignoring Beverly Hills, Universal City, West Hollywood, Santa Monica and the like.
And obviously people do consider Suffolk County as part of the NYC metro. That county, in many ways, is more "New York" than NYC proper.
Santa Monica & Beverly Hills aren't L.A city though.
I've made this argument for years that L.A is unique because it's a city and county at the same time.
So if we use L.A county,it eclipses the 5 boroughs of New York so the New Yorkers said keep city to city lol.
Even though New York is 5 counties combined itself.
Very hard to compare NY to LA with all the metrics of what is what.
Using metro is another silly case because the New York metro includes PA,Jersey,etc etc.Those are completely different cities.
My argument was why not just compare Manhattan alone vs other cities, isn't that more fair ?
Santa Monica & Beverly Hills aren't L.A city though.
I've made this argument for years that L.A is unique because it's a city and county at the same time.
So if we use L.A county,it eclipses the 5 boroughs of New York so the New Yorkers said keep city to city lol.
Even though New York is 5 counties combined itself.
Very hard to compare NY to LA with all the metrics of what is what.
Using metro is another silly case because the New York metro includes PA,Jersey,etc etc.Those are completely different cities.
My argument was why not just compare Manhattan alone vs other cities, isn't that more fair ?
Not really. You want to compare something that's 22 sq mi to something that's 469 sq mi. Instead of comparing something that is 302 sq mi to something that is 469 sq mi so you can pretend LA has more people than New York.
Not really. You want to compare something that's 22 sq mi to something that's 469 sq mi. Instead of comparing something that is 302 sq mi to something that is 469 sq mi so you can pretend LA has more people than New York.
Look all those 469 sq miles aren't even populated areas of people, Catalina island off the coast is apart of L.A county,The high desert and monutains are 100 of miles alone as well.L A bigger in land area because the counties out West are just bigger but it's more natural landscape than anything.
My point is what we call L.A can be defined as L.A city and L.A county which includes damn near everything from the coast to the desert.L.A is 1 county and NY is 5 counties so again how do you compare that ? Do you combine L.A with 4 other counties as well ?
See NY is a densely compacted populated city,those 22 sq miles pack millions on top of millions of people on top of each other because of how the vertical system was built in Manhattan.
Not really. You want to compare something that's 22 sq mi to something that's 469 sq mi. Instead of comparing something that is 302 sq mi to something that is 469 sq mi so you can pretend LA has more people than New York.
He's actually trying to push the idea that the county comparison is what's reasonable which would be 22 square miles versus 4,058 square miles. Somehow that's supposed to be a more reasonable comparison which is why he keeps going on about how NYC is five counties.
My vote goes to Los Angeles; but the axis shifted between the two cities in the mid-Forties, mostly due to the end of World War II and the emergence of the electronic/mass media.
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