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So...? Some 5 million Americans choose to live in Atlanta. And some 600,000 Hispanics (mostly Mexican) choose to live in Atlanta alone. Think about that. Atlanta has fewer Mexicans than LA, Houston, Dallas, San Francisco, San Diego, etc. And yet, it has nearly as many Mexican transplants as Mexico City has American transplants. Point of fact, Mexico is the only democracy on Earth that people flee from. Mexico is the only democracy on planet Earth where human beings risk life and limb on a daily basis to get out of.
You are confusing Mexico and Mexico City. The narcoviolence partly created by NAFTA and then the collapse of the maquiladoras when manufacturing left for China and the idiocy of the U.S. war on drugs policy, has meant that many Mexicans fled north to the United States but just as many fled south to Mexico City. My friends in DF complain about the influx of Nortenos - especially the rich ones from Monterrey who are driving up property prices. There is no question that there is a crisis in governance in Mexico: the reasons are complicated and beyond the reach of this thread. So there is a push, but there is also a pull. Who do you think does the majority of agricultural labor in the United States? Whole industries; agriculture, construction, large chunks of the service industry would come to grinding halt in places like Texas and California without the availability of cheap and super-expolitable Mexican labor. The U.S and Mexico are linked in many diabolical ways.
And the U.S. ain't that great either: Ferguson, Baltimore. The U.S. does not export its marginal populations like Mexico does - it kills or imprisons them instead. 25% of the world's prison population is in the United States . . .
But we are getting off topic. Have you been to Mexico City? 20 plus million people from all over Mexico and the world choose to live there . . . Sure it has problems, but it is an extraordinary city. Atlanta might have fewer problems but it has quite a bit less of everything else too.
Do you seriously think that more young people around the world would prefer to live in Atlanta than Mexico City?
Heck, yeah. I most definitely think people would prefer to live anywhere in the U.S. as compared to anywhere in Mexico. I mean, not even close.
That would be like asking would you like to have "x" salary or "5x" salary? Would you like to live in a democracy or a narco-state? Would you like to live in a place with rule of law, or one where corruption is the only game?
You are confusing Mexico and Mexico City. The narcoviolence partly created by NAFTA and then the collapse of the maquiladoras when manufacturing left for China and the idiocy of the U.S. war on drugs policy, has meant that many Mexicans fled north to the United States but just as many fled south to Mexico City. My friends in DF complain about the influx of Nortenos - especially the rich ones from Monterrey who are driving up property prices. There is no question that there is a crisis in governance in Mexico: the reasons are complicated and beyond the reach of this thread. So there is a push, but there is also a pull. Who do you think does the majority of agricultural labor in the United States? Whole industries; agriculture, construction, large chunks of the service industry would come to grinding halt in places like Texas and California without the availability of cheap and super-expolitable Mexican labor. The U.S and Mexico are linked in many diabolical ways.
And the U.S. ain't that great either: Ferguson, Baltimore. The U.S. does not export its marginal populations like Mexico does - it kills or imprisons them instead. 25% of the world's prison population is in the United States . . .
But we are getting off topic. Have you been to Mexico City? 20 plus million people from all over Mexico and the world choose to live there . . . Sure it has problems, but it is an extraordinary city. Atlanta might have fewer problems but it has quite a bit less of everything else too.
Dude. 20 plus million people DO NOT CHOOSE TO LIVE in Mexico City. By this reasoning, Karachi Pakistan is even MORE desirable because they have even more people. Fact is, Catholicism and bad luck account for the vast majority of people who live in Mexico City.
Please attempt, by written explanation, to reconcile my earlier point which is: 600,000 Americans live in Mexico City, a metropolis of over 20 million people WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, 600,000 Mexicans live in Atlanta, a metropolis of only 6 million people and not even among the top 10 most popular cities in the US for Mexican immigrants.
Dude. 20 plus million people DO NOT CHOOSE TO LIVE in Mexico City. By this reasoning, Karachi Pakistan is even MORE desirable because they have even more people. Fact is, Catholicism and bad luck account for the vast majority of people who live in Mexico City.
Please attempt, by written explanation, to reconcile my earlier point which is: 600,000 Americans live in Mexico City, a metropolis of over 20 million people WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, 600,000 Mexicans live in Atlanta, a metropolis of only 6 million people and not even among the top 10 most popular cities in the US for Mexican immigrants.
Fair enough. Understand, I don't blame people for seeking a better life. Even, if by your assertion, our gov't made life unbearable for them through various policies so that they must seek a better life here. Which, by the way, I don't entirely agree with. It's complicated.
But, in more than one post in this thread, you point out how many Americans live in Mexico City and you make that point in support of a larger argument about how much better Mexico City is for most and how people from all over the globe would choose Mexico City over Atlanta.
And I pointed out that Mexico City hasn't any more American transplants than Atlanta has Mexican transplants. How and why they got there is immaterial. Your point was that Mexico City is a nearly unparalleled global destination ("more Americans than London!") when that obviously is not the case. Little 'ol Atlanta has almost as many Mexicans as Mexico City has Americans. Again, you're skirting the point, moving the goal posts.
Live, and party, money being no option Vegas and MIA have the edge all day.
Man you sound like one shallow young dude. I partied plenty when I was in my 20's but at least I tried to have substance. Dismissing Paris and SF over Vegas and Miami.
The 2014 stats suggest that the murder rate in Mexico City is less than half what the spurious research claims above. It is about the same as Philadelphia's.
Only American provincialism (a combination of racism and ignorance) could claim that Atlanta (a perfectly fine city on its own terms) is in the same league as Mexico City.
People vote with their feet. Mexico City has BY FAR the largest expat U.S. community in the world. Some 600,000 Americans choose to live in Mexico City. London with just under 200,000 is a very distant second.
While I have never lived in either place, I have spent some time in both Atlanta and Mexico City, and in terms of vibrancy, urbanity, food, architecture, museums, outdoor recreation, nightlife, festivals, public transportation, amenities, any of the civic metrics that I find meaningful, compared to Mexico City, Atlanta is a one horse town!
That is not a slam on Atlanta. There is no other city in North America besides Mexico City that has been a global center of power, commerce, arts and culture for 800 years. NYC is the only city that is decidedly better than D.F. in North America.
While the Canadian bias in the original list is obvious, young Canadians clearly have a better sense of top twenty world cities than some posters on this thread. Atlanta is definitely a top 20 U.S. city, maybe even a top ten, but by nearly every objective metric: population, GDP and many more subjective ones - history, culture, environment, Mexico City is easily one of the twenty greatest cities in the world. Atlanta is not in the same league!
Are you seriously saying Mexico City ranks just after NYC?When has Mexico City been an important global center of commerce or leader in anything worldwide?
Mexico City is no leader in commerce or anything else.Its a cool city Im sure but lets just be realistic.As big as it is ,its GDP is o where near Atlanta.
No its no provincialism.Europeans , and Asians are no more flocking to Mexico City than Atlanta.However I do think you underestimate Atlanta.
Atlanta ranks 14th in the world in number of International Headquarters.Just after Brussels.Mexico City ranks 57th.
Atlanta has one of the largest university student populations in the U.S.
Amenities for young people must be affordable.Mexico City is not a cheap city compared to Atlanta.
At 132.4 square miles and a population of approximately 5,000,000 people, Atlanta has a population density of 37,764 people per square mile!
New York City is 469 square miles with 8,400,000 people. That works out to 17,910 people per square mile.
I never knew the population density of Atlanta was so high. NYC is seriously lacking here.
You know good and well I'm referring to the metro area, you silly goose.
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