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View Poll Results: which city is the capital of the south?
Atlanta 555 53.42%
New Orleans 28 2.69%
Houston 113 10.88%
Dallas 41 3.95%
Miami 39 3.75%
Austin 8 0.77%
San Antonio 12 1.15%
Charlotte 34 3.27%
other 48 4.62%
there is no capital 161 15.50%
Voters: 1039. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-30-2008, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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^^Link? I was looking at the Wiki pages for both. Looked at the APTA. Wiki wrong again.



Uh yeah. You quoted me quoting you. I don't see what you did there. There wasn't a link and proof in your post.



Nope, but we will get to 100K+ with light rail alone. Heavy rail has higher capacities than light rail. Oh, and not all of Harris County is apart of METRO.

And on the size of Harris County, nice excuse. Still doesn't change the fact that METRO has more ridership. Fulton also isn't the only county, either. Plus, much of Harris County is rural.
and undeveloped...

 
Old 12-30-2008, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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^^Link? I was looking at the Wiki pages for both.



Uh yeah. You quoted me quoting you. I don't see what you did there. There wasn't a link and proof in your post.



Nope, but we will get to 100K+ with light rail alone. Heavy rail has higher capacities than light rail. Oh, and not all of Harris County is apart of METRO.

And on the size of Harris County, nice excuse. Still doesn't change the fact that METRO has more ridership. Fulton also isn't the only county, either. Plus, much of Harris County is rural.
Wrong again. METRO has slightly more than HALF the ridership. Like I stated earlier, MARTA blows METRO's ridership out of the water. And if you want factual information, wiki is the last place to rely on. I got my stats from the APTA website (American Public Transit Association). And as long as were comparing counties, yes MARTA coverage is in Fulton and DeKalb. Both of which could fit comfortably inside Harris County. Plus, much of Fulton County (South) is rural. So? Obviously, transit has been much more embraced by Atlantans than by Houstonians - but that really doesn't surprise me.
 
Old 12-30-2008, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Houston bus ridership was in the 300s last time I checked.
Well, it's obviously not anymore. These are the latest quarterly figures for 2008.
 
Old 12-30-2008, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Now do you remember, Angel713?

I already did and you're wrong.

PURE BS. Okay, now I'm calling you out. You did no such thing, or you would have easily have found this: "Georgia has been the number one out-migration state for Floridians for the past four decades." You have just lost all credibility with me.

Source: Stanley K. Smith of the University of Florida Bureau of Economic and Business Research. Link: bebr.ufl.edu/Articles/paper_free.aspx
 
Old 12-30-2008, 11:39 AM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Wrong again. METRO has slightly more than HALF the ridership. Like I stated earlier, MARTA blows METRO's ridership out of the water. And if you want factual information, wiki is the last place to rely on. I got my stats from the APTA website (American Public Transit Association). And as long as were comparing counties, yes MARTA coverage is in Fulton and DeKalb. Both of which could fit comfortably inside Harris County. Plus, much of Fulton County (South) is rural. So? Obviously, transit has been much more embraced by Atlantans than by Houstonians - but that really doesn't surprise me.
Or not.

MARTA has a mature heavy rail system. That adds to its ridership. METRO has just one light rail line. If METRO had not been blocked by stupid Texas representatives and gotten its heavy rail back in the early 80s, ridership would most likely be much higher. There have been as many Atlantans that have opposed mass transit like Houston. And no, METRO does not have "a little over half" of MARTA's ridership. The numbers are right there. It does disappoint me to see a decline, especially with the way gas prices were, but it'll turn around.

And I went straight to the APTA once I saw your numbers.
 
Old 12-30-2008, 11:44 AM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Now do you remember, Angel713?

I already did and you're wrong.

PURE BS. Okay, now I'm calling you out. You did no such thing, or you would have easily have found this: "Georgia has been the number one out-migration state for Floridians for the past four decades." You have just lost all credibility with me.

Source: Stanley K. Smith of the University of Florida Bureau of Economic and Business Research. Link: bebr.ufl.edu/Articles/paper_free.aspx
I did not even see that. You put it in my post, which is why. Your link is bad by the way.

This is the one I read, where it says 157,000 Floridians moved to Georgia from 1995 to 2000: http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2...86-9035209_ITM

You made it seem like 200K+ were moving to GA from FL since 2000.
 
Old 12-30-2008, 11:45 AM
 
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I'd say Atlanta, due to it being known as the "NYC" of the south.
 
Old 12-30-2008, 01:10 PM
 
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I'd say Atlanta, due to it being known as the "NYC" of the south.
That title belongs to the Miami. ATL has never been known as NYC of the south. Maybe Detroit of the South.
 
Old 12-30-2008, 01:16 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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That title belongs to the Miami. ATL has never been known as NYC of the south.
Fixed it for ya!
 
Old 12-30-2008, 01:20 PM
 
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Fixed it for ya!
ATL is known as "Black Mecca" and lots of rappers and rnb artist come or go there to get in the business, just like Detroit in the 50s and 60s. Not speaking of the Detroit as of Today.
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