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Old 11-09-2014, 06:17 PM
 
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This is interesting information from a Latvian human rights activist who visited eastern Ukraine just recently as part of EU human rights activist delegation.
He witnessed multiple mass graves from executions of civilians and POWs by Western Ukraine militants. He said majority of fights these days against eastern Ukraine people are done by those militants which are not part of regular Ukrainian army. These militants are basically foreign legionnaires with questionable reputation and lot of mass murders, robberies, looting, rapes and other crimes are executed by them. They are not getting persecuted in any way. He mentioned specifically town of Nizhniya Krynka, Donetsk and Kommunarskaya mine.
This "war" is truly a genocide against eastern Ukrainians. The West Ukraini nazi army sponsored by US government specifically targets infrastructure of eastern Ukraine when doing "zachistki" using "Grad" missiles, such as electric power distribution stations, water treatment plants, museums, schools, industrial plants and such.

http://odnoklassniki.ru/video/62971618675574-1

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Old 11-10-2014, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Donetsk
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Good to see you back Selena!!!
I am here, but have not much time to write. I'll tell about situation here later
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Old 11-10-2014, 04:31 PM
 
Location: volgograd
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dear americans and europeans
you should know one simple thing
that RUSSIA is the best LIAR in the world
i live here and i know the situation from the inside.
i hope ukrainian forces will destroy russian nacists in east Ukraine

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Old 11-10-2014, 05:47 PM
 
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This is interesting information from a Latvian human rights activist who visited eastern Ukraine just recently as part of EU human rights activist delegation.
He witnessed multiple mass graves from executions of civilians and POWs by Western Ukraine militants
[url]http://odnoklassniki.ru/video/62971618675574-1[/url]
but the proofs (videos and photos of executed civillians) unfortunately has been lost, amirite?
Does that man who claims himself as EU human rights activist is really a human right activist?
or he is same virtual as that not-existing Global Communications Agency expert Lorentz Haag?
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Old 11-10-2014, 06:15 PM
 
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some of russian-compassionating users posting here videos of poor civillians talking about how the Kyiv prohibit them to speak russian.
well, i live in the city in the eastern Ukraine (Dnipropetrovsk), where about 90% population speak russian, and doesn't heard about any language restrictions.
the answer why Dnipropetrovsk lives normally, and Donetsk and Lugansk are partially destroyed is in influence of Russia on local politics and business elite.
Russia has much more influence in Donetsk and Lugansk than in Dnipropetrosk.
So here's the results.
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Old 11-10-2014, 06:31 PM
 
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Another reason why civilians are bombed by ukrainian armed forces is the backshots.
Pro-russian combatants places mortars and grenade launches near living quarters and schools, then shots from there, then fold their gear up and wait for a backshot. When the shell comes and destroys civil houses RUSSIAN PRESS APPEARS from nowhere and takes pictures and videos of ruins and corpses.
Even more: russian press not ashamed to openly folow pro-russian militants to the civil buildings, wait till separatist shot some grenades and quickly draws because BACKSHOT IS GONNA COME


[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv39Lc5oSVs[/url]
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Old 11-10-2014, 06:46 PM
 
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some of russian-compassionating users posting here videos of poor civillians talking about how the Kyiv prohibit them to speak russian.
well, i live in the city in the eastern Ukraine (Dnipropetrovsk), where about 90% population speak russian, and doesn't heard about any language restrictions.
the answer why Dnipropetrovsk lives normally, and Donetsk and Lugansk are partially destroyed is in influence of Russia on local politics and business elite.
Russia has much more influence in Donetsk and Lugansk than in Dnipropetrosk.
So here's the results.
There is no language law; the issue that there was one proposed, and it was proposed right after the coup, which even though not passed, really demonstrated the feelings of many in Kiev have towards Russian speakers (many of which are ethnic Ukrainian). So this just added fuel on the fire, the fire being the ousting of a fairly elected president, the tinder being the 20 years of inept policies towards east Ukraine.

Look at it even now, Petro totally dismisses any and all concerns east Ukraine has, and only does so now under pressure of actually losing east Ukraine, and under pressure from the West mainly Germany.
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Old 11-10-2014, 06:50 PM
 
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Another reason why civilians are bombed by ukrainian armed forces is the backshots.
Pro-russian combatants places mortars and grenade launches near living quarters and schools, then shots from there, then fold their gear up and wait for a backshot. When the shell comes and destroys civil houses RUSSIAN PRESS APPEARS from nowhere and takes pictures and videos of ruins and corpses.
Even more: russian press not ashamed to openly folow pro-russian militants to the civil buildings, wait till separatist shot some grenades and quickly draws because BACKSHOT IS GONNA COME


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv39Lc5oSVs
I am sure that happens, and Kiev forces also entrench themselves in civilian area, but there is more than enough evidence, witnessed by parties like the OSCE, that Kiev blindly fires into areas. According to the propaganda Kiev puts out, Kiev has a better aim than even the US military.
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Old 11-10-2014, 07:49 PM
 
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the answer why Dnipropetrovsk lives normally, and Donetsk and Lugansk are partially destroyed is in influence of Russia on local politics and business elite.
Really. What can you put up here to allow us forum members to make an informed decision on this matter? Concrete information on who is whom is very hard to come by especially in the western media. I would thank you profusely.

Which Russian oligarchs are involved? Which Ukrainian oligarchs are on Russias side? Which are on the Ukrainian side? This information would be a good start.


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Pro-russian combatants places mortars and grenade launches near living quarters and schools, then shots from there, then fold their gear up and wait for a backshot. When the shell comes and destroys civil houses RUSSIAN PRESS APPEARS from nowhere and takes pictures and videos of ruins and corpses.
Even more: russian press not ashamed to openly folow pro-russian militants to the civil buildings, wait till separatist shot some grenades and quickly draws because BACKSHOT IS GONNA COME
True. The DNR and LNR both use the cover of buildings for maneuver and fire positions. So do the Ukrainian forces. Neither side is willing to stop this.

We also know who started the ATO in the east. We also know who put the powers that be, in Kiev. The situation in the east is NOT the fault of the civilians of Donetsk or Lugansk or any small town in the area concerned.

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dear americans and europeans
you should know one simple thing
that RUSSIA is the best LIAR in the world
i live here and i know the situation from the inside.
i hope ukrainian forces will destroy russian nacists in east Ukraine
All governments lie to their people in one form or another. All governments steal from their people, all governments are corrupt.

Tell us something new.

I think Russia should put an end to this for the sake of the people of the Ukraine.
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:09 PM
 
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Interesting. Volunteer Battalions pose a threat to Ukrainian National Security.

Kiev had best keep these people in the east. I wonder what is going to happen if they finally smarten up and realize that nothing has really changed in Kiev.


TASS: World - Ukraine

DOH!!!
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