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Old 07-28-2014, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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It is binary to a considerable extent because "culturally southern" and "predominantly liberal" don't really mix, in most people's perceptions. It feels like inverted logic or an oxymoron.

Or there would need to be a wholesale redefining of what it means to be southern.
Can liberal southerners (they do exist) make a place more northern?
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Old 07-28-2014, 10:21 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Washington DC, Maryland and Delaware fully legalized same-sex marriage before New Jersey and Pennsylvania did. Yet, people want to say those first 3 are culturally southern?

I'd say something feels a bit strange about that designation.
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Old 07-28-2014, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Washington DC, Maryland and Delaware fully legalized same-sex marriage before New Jersey and Pennsylvania did. Yet, people want to say those first 3 are culturally southern?

I'd say something feels a bit strange about that designation.
What does same sex marriage have to do with being "culturally northern"? Also, do liberal southerners help make a place more northern?
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Old 07-28-2014, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Washington DC, Maryland and Delaware fully legalized same-sex marriage before New Jersey and Pennsylvania did. Yet, people want to say those first 3 are culturally southern?

I'd say something feels a bit strange about that designation.
You are projecting your own prejudices on what it is to be "culturally Southern".
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Old 07-28-2014, 10:37 AM
 
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What does same sex marriage have to do with being "culturally northern"? Also, do liberal southerners help make a place more northern?
Because same sex marriage has generally passed outside the South. Southerners are the least likely to approve of it (as per gallup) and the last states to pass it (or never will) will be in the South. The South is a socially conservative region...MD and DE are not socially conservative (or fiscally for that matter).
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Old 07-28-2014, 10:38 AM
 
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Politically MD and DE are Northeastern states. There are no Southern states that are that solidly Dem. NOVA is part of the Northeast as well politically.
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Is California "politically northeastern"?
Great Question!
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Old 07-28-2014, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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What does same sex marriage have to do with being "culturally northern"? Also, do liberal southerners help make a place more northern?
Northern states tend to be a lot more liberal than Southern states. Of course liberal Southerners don't make a place more Northern but that doesn't change the fact that Maryland and Delaware have much more in common politically with Northern states than it does with Southern states.


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Old 07-28-2014, 10:48 AM
 
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No, but MD, DE, and NoVA are geographically, economically, and to a lesser extent linguistically tied with the Northeast as well.
Just opinions and Not Facts.

Maryland and Delaware are Southern States despite political affiliation/history.
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Old 07-28-2014, 11:19 AM
 
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Washington DC, Maryland and Delaware fully legalized same-sex marriage before New Jersey and Pennsylvania did. Yet, people want to say those first 3 are culturally southern?

I'd say something feels a bit strange about that designation.
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What does same sex marriage have to do with being "culturally northern"? Also, do liberal southerners help make a place more northern?
Excellent Question's!!!
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Old 07-28-2014, 11:25 AM
 
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Because same sex marriage has generally passed outside the South. Southerners are the least likely to approve of it (as per gallup) and the last states to pass it (or never will) will be in the South. The South is a socially conservative region...MD and DE are not socially conservative (or fiscally for that matter).
However that does not determine or defines Maryland and Delaware being part of the South or not.

The Baltimore and Washington region of Liberals do not define the Majority of the Conservatives that live on the Maryland Eastern Shore or Southern Maryland.
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