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Old 07-12-2016, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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This isn't about preferring winter to summer. Show me all the festivals in July/August in Phoenix/Tucson/Miami/Tampa. They likely have more festivals at other times of the year.

Cities tend to have their outdoor stuff going on when the weather permits.
It seems the people who complain most about hot weather are the people who live in brutally hot climates. These people rarely experience severely cold temperatures (10 degrees or below) and enjoy relatively mild winters (40s-60s).

The East Coast has more extreme temperature ranges. So not only do we see days where the heat index is more than 100 degrees, we also get blasts of arctic air that plunge temperatures into the teens and single digits. When you look at overall pedestrian activity on the hottest days of the year compared to the coldest days, it's not even close.
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Old 07-12-2016, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Old 07-12-2016, 02:55 PM
 
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This isn't about preferring winter to summer. Show me all the festivals in July/August in Phoenix/Tucson/Miami/Tampa. They likely have more festivals at other times of the year.

Cities tend to have their outdoor stuff going on when the weather permits.
But the chances of having an outdoor concert or festival are far far greater in June/July/August in places like Miami, Houston, or Phoenix, than they would be in December/January/February in NYC, Chicago or Boston.
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Old 07-12-2016, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Or have Tour de France in January. Or the French Open. Or the Kentucky Derby. Or have baseball season finish in early March. For decades, the Super Bowl was nearly always in some warm location until owners started complaining about the Bowl not coming to their cities. Then we had an outdoor Super Bowl at MetLife Stadium and people realized what a terrible idea that was. Luckily for future Super Bowl attendees, four of the next five Bowls will be held in relatively warm climates (Houston, Atlanta, Miami and Los Angeles). The lone exception, Minneapolis, will host the Super Bowl indoors.
Football is a winter sport. Its played in cities that have snow almost every game (unless youre indoors or in Florida). How was playing a winter sport, outside, in the winter a "terrible idea"? If football players cant handle the cold (to which theyre accustomed to playing in), then they shouldnt get paid. If the fans cant handle being outside in winter, at a football game (to which theyre also accustomed to), then they shouldnt have gone to the game. Period.
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Old 07-12-2016, 03:04 PM
 
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Football is a winter sport. Its played in cities that have snow almost every game (unless youre indoors or in Florida). How was playing a winter sport, outside, in the winter a "terrible idea"? If football players cant handle the cold (to which theyre accustomed to playing in), then they shouldnt get paid. If the fans cant handle being outside in winter, at a football game (to which theyre also accustomed to), then they shouldnt have gone to the game. Period.
Football is a fall sport that goes into winter......

And I think you are overestimating that football players are accustomed to playing in cold weather. Some are not. Surely those who played in high school and college in the south will not be accustomed to playing in 30F weather. It's really is dependent on where the player played.

I actually don't think there is a problem playing football in the winter outdoors. I think people would prefer not too, but whatever.
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Old 07-12-2016, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Football is a winter sport. Its played in cities that have snow almost every game (unless youre indoors or in Florida). How was playing a winter sport, outside, in the winter a "terrible idea"? If football players cant handle the cold (to which theyre accustomed to playing in), then they shouldnt get paid. If the fans cant handle being outside in winter, at a football game (to which theyre also accustomed to), then they shouldnt have gone to the game. Period.
The point was that if cold weather was so very enjoyable, then you would think you would have many more Super Bowls in cold locations. Instead, we've had 45 Super Bowls in either Miami (11), New Orleans (10), Los Angeles (8), Tampa (4), San Diego (3), Houston (3), Phoenix (3) or Atlanta (3). 23 of the first 25 Super Bowls were held in warm climates (Los Angeles, Tampa, Miami, New Orleans and Houston). Additionally, the Pro Bowl is played each year in sunny Hawaii instead of Foxborough.

I mean, it's not like colder cities all have old, outdated facilities. FedEx Field was built in 1997 yet no one has pushing to have a Super Bowl in DC/Maryland.

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The Super Bowl is supposed to be a week-long pregame party. Often, only one-fourth of the people coming to the host city actually see the game. The rest come to have fun and see celebrities. That's why cold-weather cities are shunned, even with domes. Atlanta and Dallas had ice storms during the week leading up to the games they hosted, and you won't hear much talk about going back to either one of those cities.

NFL owners like warm-weather sites. That's why Miami and New Orleans nearly owned the game for years, with occasional moves to Arizona and California. Somebody else would get it every five years, but that core rotation remains. If Los Angeles ever gets a team, that city will be a regular, too.

D.C. is a great tourist town. I'm also a licensed tour guide and show around my share of the 20 million people coming to the town annually. But it's mostly an outdoor series of sights (Smithsonians aside), and few venture to see the Lincoln Memorial and White House during the winter. D.C. would be like many cities with created indoor events to satisfy the crowd paying big money to come to town.
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Old 07-12-2016, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Chi 'burbs=>Tucson=>Naperville=>Chicago
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Ugh, this Super Bowl thing is missing the point completely. The Super Bowl is played in early February, arguably the coldest week of the year. Of course you'd want to play it somewhere that isn't cold.

If the Super Bowl was played on July 20th, would you play it in the Orange Bowl, or in Sun Devil stadium?

Hell no you would not. Same thing.
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Old 07-12-2016, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Football is a fall sport that goes into winter......
Yeah, it's more accurate to say football is a fall sport. College football generally wraps up at the very end of November with a few select teams playing in conference championship games the first week of December. And of course, the overwhelming majority of college bowl games are played in warm climates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ege_bowl_games

The NFL season is longer, but that doesn't mean most Cleveland Browns fans would prefer a 15 degree game in snow over an 84 degree day in South Florida.
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Old 07-12-2016, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Ugh, this Super Bowl thing is missing the point completely. The Super Bowl is played in early February, arguably the coldest week of the year. Of course you'd want to play it somewhere that isn't cold.

If the Super Bowl was played on July 20th, would you play it in the Orange Bowl, or in Sun Devil stadium?

Hell no you would not. Same thing.
But we have outdoor sporting events in the dead of summer. It gets scorching hot in New York in August and we have the U.S. Open here every year. The American hard court tennis season is right now and will go through Atlanta, Washington, DC and Cincinnati and will conclude in New York during one of the hottest months of the year.

If the U.S. Open took place in February instead of August, would you play it in Flushing Meadow, New York?
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Old 07-12-2016, 03:39 PM
 
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Ugh, this Super Bowl thing is missing the point completely. The Super Bowl is played in early February, arguably the coldest week of the year. Of course you'd want to play it somewhere that isn't cold.

If the Super Bowl was played on July 20th, would you play it in the Orange Bowl, or in Sun Devil stadium?

Hell no you would not. Same thing.
The Orange Bowl no longer exists
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