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It's not up to anyone to "allow" (nor should it ever be) a "painless exit" Hombre, that's a personal choice, and there's nothing stopping people from making that choice right now...... for themselves.
Contradictory post. On the one hand, you say "no one is stopping you from choosing a painless exit", but on the other hand, there is no such thing as a painless exit if one is forced to resort to committing suicide. You are basically forcing people to choose either a life of pain and/or misery with no hope of improvement or a risk and painful exit.
With all the scientific advances that give the Medical Profession the ability to keep our body breathing as long as the insurance pays for it I certainly believe assisted suicide should be an option.
They've raided people with helium. They now have all kinds of requirements for getting those canisters. Authorites go to great lengths to prevent people's ability to commit suicide. Now you pretty much have to put a bag over your head and suffocate yourself, which most are simply incapable of doing. Hanging is an option, but what if you don't do it right?
Absolutely, in fact we should consider going further and granting painless deaths to those who are seriously depressed, but are of sound mind (in terms of logic and knowing what's best for them). Many people's lives are unliveable for whatever reason. There is no cure for such people and many often attempting suicide anyway, some succeed and some fail, ending up paraplegic.
Until we can cure serious mental illnesses and illnesses that become terminal, why not allow a painless exit?
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Rein up a minute Hombre. This comment is a contradiction in terms.
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...those who are seriously depressed, but are of sound mind (in terms of logic and knowing what's best for them).
Most people who are in depression don't realize it unless family members or close friends talk to them and make them face a reality they formely thought was just sadness. Your parenthetical disclaimer suggesting that they would, at that time, know "what's best for them" makes a conundrum of your own creation. It's not reasonable or logical. They would not know that at all, That's why most people who live alone and are detached from close friends/family eventually commit suicide as they sink from depression into deep depression and total isolation. That's only found out after the fact of the suicide as a "cause' is seached for and a recent history of the deceased is accumulated. Many times, by detectives seeking to rule out any chance of a homicide made to appear as a suicide.
That's why if you have a neighbor who lives alone, the decent thin is when you see him/her strike up a casual conversation about anything. That simple act of stopping to wave a greeting wenever you see that person can be a lifeline thrown to someone and you wouldn't even know it. That applies to the elderly infirmed especially. The life you might save could be theirs!
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Rein up a minute Hombre. This comment is a contradiction in terms.
Most people who are in depression don't realize it unless family members or close friends talk to them and make them face a reality they formely thought was just sadness. Your parenthetical disclaimer suggesting that they would, at that time, know "what's best for them" makes a conundrum of your own creation. It's not reasonable or logical. They would not know that at all, That's why most people who live alone and are detached from close friends/family eventually commit suicide as they sink from depression into deep depression and total isolation. That's only found out after the fact of the suicide as a "cause' is seached for and a recent history of the deceased is accumulated. Many times, by detectives seeking to rule out any chance of a homicide made to appear as a suicide.
That's why if you have a neighbor who lives alone, the decent thin is when you see him/her strike up a casual conversation about anything. That simple act of stopping to wave a greeting wenever you see that person can be a lifeline thrown to someone and you wouldn't even know it. That applies to the elderly infirmed especially. The life you might save could be theirs!
I've read the number one profession is dentists, then doctors including veterinarians.
Men are something like 4 times more likely to commit suicide than women.
[quote=claudhopper;27843847]Be nice to policemen and detectives.[quote]
---------------------------------- Ohhhh claudhopper! I agree. Wouldn't want one depressed about having just had the local citizenry shooting down his/her pay raise in a budget referendum start shooting back. A neighborly with brief eye-contact, but no damned should get the job done. Don't smile too much or he/she might think you're a real big-city wise*ss and start sh...... Uhh... Never mind!
"You can put your ID back in your wallet and drive away now...sir." (w/ a tip o' the hat and a forced weak smile...)
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Rein up a minute Hombre. This comment is a contradiction in terms.
Most people who are in depression don't realize it unless family members or close friends talk to them and make them face a reality they formely thought was just sadness. Your parenthetical disclaimer suggesting that they would, at that time, know "what's best for them" makes a conundrum of your own creation. It's not reasonable or logical. They would not know that at all, That's why most people who live alone and are detached from close friends/family eventually commit suicide as they sink from depression into deep depression and total isolation. That's only found out after the fact of the suicide as a "cause' is seached for and a recent history of the deceased is accumulated. Many times, by detectives seeking to rule out any chance of a homicide made to appear as a suicide.
That's why if you have a neighbor who lives alone, the decent thin is when you see him/her strike up a casual conversation about anything. That simple act of stopping to wave a greeting wenever you see that person can be a lifeline thrown to someone and you wouldn't even know it. That applies to the elderly infirmed especially. The life you might save could be theirs!
I think you are most likely a decent individual, but you are also naive.
Society isn't as you perceive it. You may be decent and may care about others, but most people don't. I live in the real world. It's a brutal place. I see why many people buckle and decide to end it. I salute them for being brave enough to give society the middle finger.
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Your contradiction in terms
You betcha...
with brief eye-contact, but no damned 
should get the job done. Don't smile too much or he/she might think you're a real big-city wise*ss and start sh...... Uhh
... Never mind!
