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Old 05-31-2009, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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So you're telling me the sun going supernova is a silly religious concept? And that this silly religious concept won't eventually happen? And that this silly religious concept won't obliterate this planet?
That WILL be the end of the world. The Mayan prophesy is longer than that though. Its the end of the world AS WE KNOW IT. As in the world will still be here and we will too, but there will be a major change. As we are seeing huge changes all over the world right now, including here, maybe they were right? Of course this is not a new concept. The world as we know it has come and gone many times before, even before we were around. It will continue to. Things always come in cycles including planetary and human history.

But we are experiencing a fundamental shift now, and give it a few years and this will be the end of the world as we know it (also known as TEOTWAWKI)
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Old 05-31-2009, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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So you're telling me the sun going supernova is a silly religious concept? And that this silly religious concept won't eventually happen? And that this silly religious concept won't obliterate this planet?
I used quote marks to indicate bthe Christiasn concept is silly: 3 1/2 years followed by 3 1/2 years followed bvy 1,000 years---it really is silly.
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Old 05-31-2009, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Tri-Cities, TN
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I used quote marks to indicate bthe Christiasn concept is silly: 3 1/2 years followed by 3 1/2 years followed bvy 1,000 years---it really is silly.

...in your opinion
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Old 06-01-2009, 12:17 AM
 
Location: England
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Our sun is simply to small to achieve Super Nova status.

It will eventually become a red giant & then ultimately a white dwarf star in about 4.5 billion years.
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Old 06-01-2009, 02:44 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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2010 - the year that Congress' "Madoff" scam goes bust - that's when no one will 'buy' new debt from the government, that is paying old interest with new investors' funds. (2007, 2008, Congress borrowed MORE than it paid in interest.) International trade goes off the "U.S. dollar", and it plummets in value against other foreign money systems.

2011 - the year that unemployment hits 35%, 60% of retail establishments close their doors, service sector is wracked, and there's little opportunity in the "mining, agriculture, and manufacturing" side of the economy. (Government employment is booming - but it's like a snake devouring its tail) Taxes rise to unheard levels, allegedly to fund the military misadventures in Asia.

2012 - Rioting follows a pre emptive strike against the N.K. / Iranian alliance, that shuts down 75% of international oil trade. A Solar flare causes widespread breakdown in the electrical power grid in the northern hemisphere. Primary transformers will take decades to replace. Transportation of natural gas and pipeline oil shuts down. Public institutions come under attack, as they are overwhelmed by the needy. Large metropolitan areas, dependent upon timely resupply, convulse and collapse, as looting and urban chaos erupts. The winter of 2012-13 is especially harsh, with millions of casualties from exposure and starvation. The elderly and infirm are abandoned to their fates.
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Old 06-01-2009, 03:05 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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I never worry about the end of the world, since there's nothing that I can personally do to prevent it.
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Old 06-01-2009, 09:10 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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2010 - the year that Congress' "Madoff" scam goes bust - that's when no one will 'buy' new debt from the government, that is paying old interest with new investors' funds. (2007, 2008, Congress borrowed MORE than it paid in interest.) International trade goes off the "U.S. dollar", and it plummets in value against other foreign money systems.

2011 - the year that unemployment hits 35%, 60% of retail establishments close their doors, service sector is wracked, and there's little opportunity in the "mining, agriculture, and manufacturing" side of the economy. (Government employment is booming - but it's like a snake devouring its tail) Taxes rise to unheard levels, allegedly to fund the military misadventures in Asia.

2012 - Rioting follows a pre emptive strike against the N.K. / Iranian alliance, that shuts down 75% of international oil trade. A Solar flare causes widespread breakdown in the electrical power grid in the northern hemisphere. Primary transformers will take decades to replace. Transportation of natural gas and pipeline oil shuts down. Public institutions come under attack, as they are overwhelmed by the needy. Large metropolitan areas, dependent upon timely resupply, convulse and collapse, as looting and urban chaos erupts. The winter of 2012-13 is especially harsh, with millions of casualties from exposure and starvation. The elderly and infirm are abandoned to their fates.
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Old 06-01-2009, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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2010 - the year that Congress' "Madoff" scam goes bust - that's when no one will 'buy' new debt from the government, that is paying old interest with new investors' funds. (2007, 2008, Congress borrowed MORE than it paid in interest.) International trade goes off the "U.S. dollar", and it plummets in value against other foreign money systems.

2011 - the year that unemployment hits 35%, 60% of retail establishments close their doors, service sector is wracked, and there's little opportunity in the "mining, agriculture, and manufacturing" side of the economy. (Government employment is booming - but it's like a snake devouring its tail) Taxes rise to unheard levels, allegedly to fund the military misadventures in Asia.

2012 - Rioting follows a pre emptive strike against the N.K. / Iranian alliance, that shuts down 75% of international oil trade. A Solar flare causes widespread breakdown in the electrical power grid in the northern hemisphere. Primary transformers will take decades to replace. Transportation of natural gas and pipeline oil shuts down. Public institutions come under attack, as they are overwhelmed by the needy. Large metropolitan areas, dependent upon timely resupply, convulse and collapse, as looting and urban chaos erupts. The winter of 2012-13 is especially harsh, with millions of casualties from exposure and starvation. The elderly and infirm are abandoned to their fates.
It's a good thing that future predictions have such a poor track record of commig true.
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Old 06-01-2009, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Somewhere out there
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Cool "we're dooooomed! We're doooommmmmed!

Any thinker with a penchant and ability for logical futurist dreaming will sense that the cyclical nature of man's activities on this planet will force changes. Of course our population has never been at this nasty level, and the effects we're having on resource depletion and pollution are at unheard-of levels (available forests for logging, pelagic and river commercial fisheries; vulnerability to insect and other pests for our vast agricultural mono-cultures, and on and on.)

Our other penchant for doom and gloom predictions also reliably and lovingly generates perpetual End Time predictions, and this is conveniently coupled with the fervent Christian desire to escape the travails of this Earth, to run and hide from making rational common-sense and altruistic decisions in the here-and-now, and to have the mythical father-figure take over their lives as they once experienced in childhood.

News and views related to the End Times

So, ergo, we have these relentlessly stupid predictions, which, like all of the past ones, of course, have failed to come true. (As in: We're still here!)

There's also good money to be made on this. Y2K* preparations, radios, batteries, foodstuffs, yogurt makers, fuel from chicken poop [the home version; As Seen on TV!], assault rifles & Hi-Cap auto pistols with lots of ammo, combat knives, goats, chickens, pit bulls, bags of rice & flour, training your kids to make simple pipe bombs [for Jesus...]

(*One of our very religious friends, on that particularly memorable New Years Eve party, actually closed her eyes as the clock approached midnight. She "knew" her God was coming.... Sadly for her, he was a no-show.)

Patently ridiculous. And of course whenever anything untoward happens (the Asian tsunami was a good example) the religious wack-a-loons suddenly appear out of the woodwork.

Well of course! Their psychological stability and daily happiness depends on a good End Times scenario, where they picture themselves giving you and I the finger and chanting "I Told You So!" as they happily walk the ramp into the mother ship, a bearded robed guy happily waving them on at the top of that golden ramp (of course "they've" been listening in to our TV and radio broadcasts and know what "props" they'll need to be convincing...).

(Which will, in fact, be a "cattle car, and they're all off to the alien slaughterhouse. Too bad.

"They taste like chicken, Zlorgon! A lot better than those things from Neptune! Here! Try a bit of their BBQ sauce; it's a great invention. And those Barney Miller re-runs? Hilarious!").


Hey guys and girls; get real, live for the here and now, enjoy this life, be kind and loving to your friends and neighbors, smarten up your own act, be responsible and altruistic and conserving, and try taking care of the planet we've got. It's all we've got, until we figure out how to get off it.

And stop drooling over The End Times Scenario, because it'll be yours as well as ours!

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Old 06-01-2009, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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Hey guys and girls; get real, live for the here and now, enjoy this life, be kind and loving to your friends and neighbors, smarten up your own act, be responsible and altruistic and conserving, and try taking care of the planet we've got. It's all we've got, until we figure out how to get off it.
A+, Excellent post!!! Nicely stated (except for the part about eating.)
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