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Old 10-11-2017, 05:56 AM
 
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I have. I changed to Lunesta, which was bliss. I sleep walked on Ambien, the fridge was not safe. Apparently I am a sleep eater.

BUT insurance will not allow Lunesta and tramadol. I chose tramadol because it allows me to go to the gym daily, which helps my RA and pre-diabetes.

So I stopped Lunesta, and use amptitryptlene (yeah, spelling). Which is what I discussed with my doc today. It seems since I stopped the Lunesta that my fatigue is through the roof (could be coincidental). I seem to sleep well, but tired all the time. So I started taking the Lunesta I had left over, and my energy rebounded.

So where does that leave me? I'm trying to apply the placebo effect, and just figure my energy is now back no matter what I take to sleep. When you have autoimmune diseases it can seem that A+B=C, but sometimes it is coincidental.

So he offered me the prescription for Lunesta, which I can pay for myself (it's expensive, about $160 for 20 pills), but I will probably be flagged in the "system". I am choosing to wait and see if I can work through it.

If I can't, I'll pay for the Lunesta.

My sleep problems started in my 30s. I tried Valerian, Hops, Passion Flower, Kava... you name it. I'd be up until 3 in the morning and be up by 5 for work.... I never nap. Heck I'm not even capable of napping, no matter how tired I am.
Does your insurance not allow Lunesta AND Tramadol together?

Have to believe Lunesta is more money (which you’d want insurance for)...generic Tramadol is under $10 for 120 pills with a GoodRx coupon.
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Old 10-11-2017, 05:59 AM
 
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Does your insurance not allow Lunesta AND Tramadol together?

Have to believe Lunesta is more money (which you’d want insurance for)...generic Tramadol is under $10 for 120 pills with a GoodRx coupon.

That is correct, they do not allow the two together.

The 2nd part is brilliant, I don't why I didn't thing of that.

/she says at 2am, as she has been up for an hour. Did not take Lunesta tonight
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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I'd rather take Amitriptyline for insomnia than take Ambien or Lunesta.

I figure I'd sleepwalk with taking Ambien. Too dangerous since I live alone.

I've taken Amitriptyline for probably a couple decades for chronic insomnia.

Remember Congressman Patrick Kennedy got into his car, drove to the Capital Building in Washington DC at night, and rammed a barricade in an accident at the gates - all without knowing it - as he was on Ambien and sleepwalking.
Ambien is some awful stuff, it made me hallucinate and say crazy things. Very embarrasing when you don't remember most of it.


If I really need some sleep nowadays, I take a Flexeril (very similar to amitriptyline). Sometimes it'll take a couple of hours to kick in, but I can sleep for ten hours easily. I can't take it if I need to go to work the next day though, so it's a weekend only sleep aid.
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I feel this is such negligence on doctors when they do BS like this. They know patients shouldn't be on drugs like this long-term, yet they keep them on it, and look what happens.
Keep them on it?

When I don't want to take something, I stop.
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:26 AM
 
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Ambien is some awful stuff, it made me hallucinate and say crazy things. Very embarrasing when you don't remember most of it.


If I really need some sleep nowadays, I take a Flexeril (very similar to amitriptyline). Sometimes it'll take a couple of hours to kick in, but I can sleep for ten hours easily. I can't take it if I need to go to work the next day though, so it's a weekend only sleep aid.

I can take a Flexeril during the day, and it won't slow my roll one bit.
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Old 10-11-2017, 11:03 AM
 
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That is correct, they do not allow the two together.

The 2nd part is brilliant, I don't why I didn't thing of that.

/she says at 2am, as she has been up for an hour. Did not take Lunesta tonight
Glad I could help. My father visited from outside the US a couple of months ago, doesn’t have insurance here and forgot his meds. Big savings with GoodRx...
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Old 10-11-2017, 01:07 PM
 
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Glad I could help. My father visited from outside the US a couple of months ago, doesn’t have insurance here and forgot his meds. Big savings with GoodRx...
Ack, I thought about it and not going to do it. If I do I will look like someone who has a opioid problem... I'll end up on some list somewhere.....

It irritates me because I was at the sweet spot with my health, I was well rested, no pain, productive and energetic.
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:17 PM
 
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Ack, I thought about it and not going to do it. If I do I will look like someone who has a opioid problem... I'll end up on some list somewhere.....

It irritates me because I was at the sweet spot with my health, I was well rested, no pain, productive and energetic.
I’d think if anything you would be better not putting Tramadol through insurance? Tramadol’s Schedule IV anyway...the good stuff needs a paper script.
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:21 PM
 
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I’d think if anything you would be better not putting Tramadol through insurance? Tramadol’s Schedule IV anyway...the good stuff needs a paper script.
The pharmacy makes a note in your file, and may notify insurance anyway. This are hinky right now.
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:46 PM
 
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Blackout curtains in the bedroom and melatonin.
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