Katy ISD considering $68 million football stadium (Houston, Austin: exemptions, stats, car)

[deckhanddavy]

Originally Posted by die Eichkatze

70+ posts on this thread and so far only one person understands school funding.

While all the "this money should go towards education instead of football" arguments are noble, they have no bearing on this issue. The portion of local school property taxes that are actually used to fund education are capped by the state. The portion of local school property taxes for things like capital improvements is not. Take it up with your legislator if you don't like the way schools are funded. The current school funding fiasco is due to the 2006 school refinance debacle enacted by the legislature...unanimously voted in favor by the Senate, and only 8 dissenting votes in the house.

Thank you...this makes sense. Finally, some light has been shed.

[14Bricks]

Originally Posted by Mister Mister

I see it all the time in the classroom. I saw it in Austin and now I'm seeing it here.

The California kids are much further ahead. It is what it is.

Statistics say you're wrong.

[usc619]

Originally Posted by die Eichkatze

70+ posts on this thread and so far only one person understands school funding.

While all the "this money should go towards education instead of football" arguments are noble, they have no bearing on this issue. The portion of local school property taxes that are actually used to fund education are capped by the state. The portion of local school property taxes for things like capital improvements is not. Take it up with your legislator if you don't like the way schools are funded. The current school funding fiasco is due to the 2006 school refinance debacle enacted by the legislature...unanimously voted in favor by the Senate, and only 8 dissenting votes in the house.

Einstein I think most people are aware of this, the debate is what should capital improvements money/bonds/my taxes be spent on? Improving our older learning facilities, adding on to our existing schools(instead of T-buildings), building more learning centers or a brand new football stadium?

Originally Posted by 14Bricks

Statistics say you're wrong.

Great, more Texas propaganda bull sh*t.

[Mister Mister]

Originally Posted by 14Bricks

Statistics say you're wrong.

Overall, I'm sure there's truth to that, but last I checked universities and future employers don't give a darn about those stats. The Cali kids at the high schools I have taught at get into the better schools and get the better scholarships every single time. They are also more willing to go out of state for some reason while the kids from TX seem to stay in TX.

I've had classes in Austin where there would be 6+ Cali kids in my class and the separation is quite palatable. I would say Cali runs about a year and a half ahead of us here in TX.

I wonder if any Cali transfers could weigh in?

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by die Eichkatze

70+ posts on this thread and so far only one person understands school funding.

While all the "this money should go towards education instead of football" arguments are noble, they have no bearing on this issue. The portion of local school property taxes that are actually used to fund education are capped by the state. The portion of local school property taxes for things like capital improvements is not. Take it up with your legislator if you don't like the way schools are funded. The current school funding fiasco is due to the 2006 school refinance debacle enacted by the legislature...unanimously voted in favor by the Senate, and only 8 dissenting votes in the house.

So there's a cap on funds that go into education but not on funds that go towards "capital improvements" (buildings, parking lots, football stadiums)

Who's the genius that came up with that c...?

[usc619]

Originally Posted by Mister Mister

Overall, I'm sure there's truth to that, but last I checked universities and future employers don't give a darn about those stats. The Cali kids at the high schools I have taught at get into the better schools and get the better scholarships every single time. They are also more willing to go out of state for some reason while the kids from TX seem to stay in TX.

I've had classes in Austin where there would be 6+ Cali kids in my class and the separation is quite palatable. I would say Cali runs about a year and a half ahead of us here in TX.

I wonder if any Cali transfers could weigh in?

I have no experience with the Texas school systems, but it seems that many Texans are hell bent on standardize testing scores and demographics.

I'm banking on my kids getting a good education here in Texas, but also know that I'll have to really prep them at home.

[Mister Mister]

Originally Posted by usc619

I have no experience with the Texas school systems, but it seems that many Texans are hell bent on standardize testing scores and demographics.

I'm banking on my kids getting a good education here in Texas, but also know that I'll have to really prep them at home.

Oh, we are quite so. Now, I'm not going to go crazy like the crbcrbrgv poster does. He seems to not care for the Texas schools at all.

From my experience, it appears to me for those who care about education (and let's be honest, many parents see us as babysitters), California schools are better than Texas schools. This does not seem Texas schools are bad, however. In my opinion, the mindset is different. Perhaps this whole thread is a bit of proof as I can't imagine California towns clamoring for all this money being poured into football, but I could be wrong.

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by usc619

I'm banking on my kids getting a good education here in Texas, but also know that I'll have to really prep them at home.

That's exactly what I'm doing
my wife takes them to the library at least twice a week

[Mister Mister]

Originally Posted by Dopo

That's exactly what I'm doing
my wife takes them to the library at least twice a week

I make tons of extra money tutoring. The extra prep is very common.

[Rip808]

Originally Posted by Mister Mister

Overall, I'm sure there's truth to that, but last I checked universities and future employers don't give a darn about those stats. The Cali kids at the high schools I have taught at get into the better schools and get the better scholarships every single time. They are also more willing to go out of state for some reason while the kids from TX seem to stay in TX.

I've had classes in Austin where there would be 6+ Cali kids in my class and the separation is quite palatable. I would say Cali runs about a year and a half ahead of us here in TX.

I wonder if any Cali transfers could weigh in?

Hi. I am a "Cali transfer"...I came into Cinco Ranch High School as a Junior from a "Bay-area" high school. I can tell you, without a doubt, that I was SHOCKED at how much TOUGHER school was here. Finals and exemptions, etc etc... It was a huge learning curve. I went to a "good" high school in California.

The "California High School Exit Exam" is an absolute an utter joke. The TAKS test here were a lot harder. All the kids here seemed "hip and with it"...going from class to class subject to subject with no issues.

Mind you, I was top 10% in Cali. Transferred into Cinco Ranch and was top 49% I couldn't believe it... We had no opportunity to take "pre-ap" classes during our freshman or sophomore years because the money simply wasn't there. In my personal experience, my education here in Texas was much more solid than that which I would have ever received in California.