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Old 04-23-2011, 11:52 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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You have quoted a White Nationalist website. They would no more have you than a Hispanic. Do you want to further their cause?
Are all the sources listed lying too?!

 
Old 04-23-2011, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Are all the sources listed lying too?!
If you want to post quotes from a White Nationalist website, I will leave that up to you (and the moderators)...
 
Old 04-23-2011, 12:03 PM
 
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Vicente Fox was pretty open about the Mexican government's intentions. They want "the whole enchilada" and it has nothing to do with taking back just some of the territory once claimed for Spain. Or why are illegals in Georgia? New York? Chicago?
Would you please provide a link to that? I have a hard time believing this one.

Thanks.
 
Old 04-23-2011, 12:45 PM
 
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Would you please provide a link to that? I have a hard time believing this one.

Thanks.
Castaneda: 'It's the Whole Enchilada or Nothing'

Looking American journalists squarely in the eye, Castaneda said, "It's the whole enchilada or nothing; we can't slice it one piece at a time."


What is it that is included in Castaneda's list of demands? Basically, he wants a complete surrender of U.S. sovereignty over immigration policy.

America must legalize all Mexican illegal aliens, loosen its already lax border enforcement, establish a guest worker program in the midst of an economic downturn, and exempt Mexican immigrants from U.S. visa quotas.

Not only that, but also the demand that Mexicans living in the U.S. receive health care provided by the American taxpayer and in-state college tuition.


Speaking in Tijuana, Castaneda became even more bold; he aptly described such demands with this statement: "We must obtain the greatest number of rights for the greatest number of Mexicans in the shortest time possible."

Mind you, Castaneda is referring to rights for Mexicans in the U.S. – NOT in Mexico!
 
Old 04-23-2011, 12:51 PM
 
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Not only that - Fox had something similar in mind for his own country - the Plan Puebla Panama, bring in hordes of Central Americans to do those cheap labor jobs that Mexicans think they're too good to do.

Very interesting article on this:

El fracaso del plan puebla panamá [Red Voltaire]

El plan que detonaría a Mesoamérica, beneficiaría, se dijo, a los 65 millones de habitantes de la región (28 en la zona mexicana y 36 en Centroamérica). Todos ellos siguen en la pobreza, tienen bajo nivel educativo y altos índices de desempleo; sin embargo, fracasó porque el gobierno foxista no estableció un diálogo con esas comunidades, las cuales desde su lanzamiento se opusieron al plan.
 
Old 04-23-2011, 12:58 PM
 
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That article is so interesting that I have to exerpt a little more of it:

José Gasca Zamora, investigador del Instituto de Investigaciones Económicas de la UNAM y experto en el tema, explica que a esas entidades se les atendió con políticas asistencialistas, lo que convierte a la población en sujeto muy manipulable.

(que interesante...)

Este Plan ejemplifica también que el Estado no logró ser un promotor eficiente del desarrollo regional. Gasca Zamora afirma que la planeación centralizada y vertical sólo privilegia a ciertos sectores y regiones, imponiendo sus intereses, y niega a las regiones su derecho a participar del beneficio y riqueza de su propio territorio. Al final, estos programas se reducen a dotarlos de un carácter asistencial y clientelar.

(Hmmmm...... sound familiar)

“La brecha en la lógica que se observa entre el discurso y el desempeño nacional muestra que el presidente Vicente Fox es el intermediario de intereses que no corresponden precisamente a los de la nación mexicana”, explica la experta en economía y política internacional.

(well except for the Mexican nation residing in the USA)
 
Old 04-23-2011, 04:36 PM
 
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I am so sick of this.

Illegal aliens are mostly Hispanic and most of them come from Mexico.

It is not racism. It is a FACT.

So if I state a fact, I am racist?
Call me racist too, because i agree with this statement.
 
Old 04-23-2011, 04:50 PM
 
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If you want to post quotes from a White Nationalist website, I will leave that up to you (and the moderators)...
Whether or not it is ok to post things from a white nationalist site in here wasn't the issue. The poster asked you if you think the sources listed on that site are viable or not. Nice dodge of the question just like always in the past also.
 
Old 04-23-2011, 05:05 PM
 
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This website is fairly interesting.
Wikipedia agrees

"American Renaissance (AR or AmRen) is a monthly racialist magazine published by the New Century Foundation. The magazine's arguments are usually explained using social science and genetics, but one article mentioned Biblical arguments against interracial and inter-cultural marriages. The magazine and foundation promote the view that differences in educational outcomes and per capita incomes between racial populations can be attributed at least in part to differences in intelligence between races. "

American Renaissance (magazine) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Old 04-23-2011, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Whether or not it is ok to post things from a white nationalist site in here wasn't the issue. The poster asked you if you think the sources listed on that site are viable or not. Nice dodge of the question just like always in the past also.
I'm not going to comment about a White Nationalist website. You can use the material if you want. If it is legitimate information it needs to be sourced better.
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