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Old 08-15-2008, 05:03 PM
 
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Do you think Chicagoans would be upset if Michigan Avenue were changed to Cesar Chavez Avenue?
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Old 08-15-2008, 05:06 PM
 
Location: California
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Why does it bother you, that it bothers others?

The street doesnt matter to me at all. I don't care if it becomes Chavez or not.
But Im wondering why people not from Texas are so offended by this, and to me it seems like they are offended by it being named after a Hispanic.

I can understand people from Texas being against this. They have their reasons(hopefully the right ones).
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Old 08-15-2008, 05:08 PM
 
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Hello? We have offered to name a street which is not already named for someone else ..they have rejected that.
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Old 08-15-2008, 05:10 PM
 
Location: California
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Hello? We have offered to name a street which is not already named for someone else ..they have rejected that.
"We"?
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Old 08-15-2008, 05:12 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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"We"?
We as in Dallasites.....

I gave you the history of Ross Avenue. Did you even bother to read it or are you too deeply immersed in your mission to prove racism, when all it boils down to is that the people of Dallas want Ross Avenue, named for a pioneer Dallas family to remain Ross Avenue.
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Old 08-15-2008, 05:16 PM
 
Location: California
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We as in Dallasites.....

I gave you the history of Ross Avenue. Did you even bother to read it or are you too deeply immersed in your mission to prove racism, when all it boils down to is that the people of Dallas want Ross Avenue, named for a pioneer Dallas family to remain Ross Avenue.
Lakewooder is a Dallasite?

Nah, trust me. Keep your street, its all fine and good. People of Texas have their reasons.
But what about the people who aren't from Dallas? People who probably never even been to Texas, much less have some kind of deep attachment to its history?
Just seems like Hispanophobia to me.

Who did he really mean by "we"?
And who's "them"?
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Old 08-15-2008, 05:21 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Lakewood, for your information, is an area of Dallas.

I feel reasonably certain that Lakewooder is so named because he is a resident of the Lakewood area of Dallas. Consequently, when he says "we" he means we Dallasites.

No matter how you slice that, you cannot equate it to racism. But I know you'll continue to dissect it into fragments searching for that imaginary illusion to racism.
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Old 08-15-2008, 05:45 PM
 
Location: California
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Lakewood, for your information, is an area of Dallas.

I feel reasonably certain that Lakewooder is so named because he is a resident of the Lakewood area of Dallas. Consequently, when he says "we" he means we Dallasites.

No matter how you slice that, you cannot equate it to racism. But I know you'll continue to dissect it into fragments searching for that imaginary illusion to racism.
Just because you dont see it as "racism", how do you know everyone agrees with you?
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Old 08-15-2008, 07:10 PM
 
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I think the citizens here would rather name a street after one of our local hispanic residents who have made great marks on history - we have many of them. And I know/knew some of them and count them as friends.
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Old 08-15-2008, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Its not like people are idolizing him in some kind of pagan ritual. Its just honoring our historical figures, and by "our" I mean "ours" as Americans.
Its done all the time. With whole cities.

Washington D.C.
JFK Airport
Maryland
Washington state
Martin Luther King Blvds
Martin Luther King schools
Kennedy schools
Garfield schools
etc etc.

I dont really care about Texas or anything in it, but I'm just a little surprised on how offended people are over naming a street after a Hispanic.
What's a Ross anyways? Only one person on here legitimately appeared to care about the issue because they knew who the street was originally named after.

Most of the people seem to be against it out of spite towards illegals and Hispanic politicians as well as Hispanics promoting someone they consider a hero.

Street names get changed all the time, but this is only a big issue because its a major street not going through a bad neighborhood, and its proposed to be named after a Hispanic by Hispanics.
In my previous post I wrote that "I am not impressed" by actions to name streets after people. Not because I don't like Chavez, but because these activists think that by changing the name they were actually accomplishing something of substance when it is just, as I wrote before, a dog and pony show. It is the kind of thing that makes everyone feel all fuzzy inside. And when they don't get what they want, they get all worked-up into a lather. What are they fighting for? A cookie.

And my argument applies to anyone of any background. Chavez' Hispanic background is irrelevant to me. I'm not in favor of renaming streets after MLK, either. Chavez and King both would probably throw up...
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