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I didn't mention affirmative action, a thread on that topic based in facts and debated in good humor without vitriole would be fun.
True, you didn't, but a great deal of the thread did so I thought it appropriate to state my opinion on it.
You are quite correct the scholarship doesn't say who is eligible it only says who is ineleigble, which is everyone except white men. Look at my post using the continent scenario, I am sure you would rightly find this offensive. This scholarship is no different.
That's the exact opposite of what I said. The newspaper article says that 80% of the money is to go to scholarships for women and minorites. It doesn't say that white men are excluded or ineligible at all. It is the OP who said that. What I did say was that the limited article made no mention of how it would be decided in what way a minority would be defined as a minority or even which minorities may be covered. Most grants come with fairly sophisticated language which isn't revealed in the 2 paragraph blurb.
My responses in bold. And no, I wouldn't find it offensive for someone to list continents that they wanted to help and ignore another. I don't find legacy scholarships offensive even though they target whites as only white people were allowed to go to many of these colleges 50 years ago.
And yes - there ARE white minorities - Latinos, Arabs and many religious minorities are all designated as White. Or are we only talking about male Americans of Northern European backgrounds who have decided that they are discriminated against?
We don't know the language of the actual gift. We don't know the exact criteria of the scholarships. We don't know the race, ethnicity or sex of the person who made the gift. This entire debate is based on someone deciding what they think someone else they don't know was thinking. Mostly in order to score political points.
I'm not accusing you of anything, and my comment wasn't directed at you specifically.
My point is that it seems many are up in arms about this on the grounds of "fairness", but there is a lot of unfairness (most of which favours people with privileged backgrounds, who are more likely to be white than black), and most of the people who are up in arms about the donation that was the subject of this thread, are not up in arms about the sort of "unfairness" that maintains the existing social hierarchy.
Well forgive me for not catching that when you quoted directly from my post.
I don't know any of the people who responded to this thread and therefore can't comment on what they think is fair or unfair. I can only speak for myself. I think it is objectional to exclude any group of people based on race. I am not sure why you are not equally offended.
And before you go back to the silly topic of parents paying for their children I don't object to it because the "schoalrship" is directed towards one group, my children, it doesn't exlude only one group.
And yes - there ARE white minorities - Latinos, Arabs and many religious minorities are all designated as White. Or are we only talking about male Americans of Northern European backgrounds who have decided that they are discriminated against?
We don't know the language of the actual gift. We don't know the exact criteria of the scholarships. We don't know the race, ethnicity or sex of the person who made the gift.
My responses in bold. And no, I wouldn't find it offensive for someone to list continents that they wanted to help and ignore another. I don't find legacy scholarships offensive even though they target whites as only white people were allowed to go to many of these colleges 50 years ago.
And yes - there ARE white minorities - Latinos, Arabs and many religious minorities are all designated as White. Or are we only talking about male Americans of Northern European backgrounds who have decided that they are discriminated against?
We don't know the language of the actual gift. We don't know the exact criteria of the scholarships. We don't know the race, ethnicity or sex of the person who made the gift. This entire debate is based on someone deciding what they think someone else they don't know was thinking. Mostly in order to score political points.
Respectfully, I don't buy it. I think if a minority group was specified it would have been mentioned. Alutian Islanders and women to receive scholarship!
My responses in bold. And no, I wouldn't find it offensive for someone to list continents that they wanted to help and ignore another. I don't find legacy scholarships offensive even though they target whites as only white people were allowed to go to many of these colleges 50 years ago.
And yes - there ARE white minorities - Latinos, Arabs and many religious minorities are all designated as White. Or are we only talking about male Americans of Northern European backgrounds who have decided that they are discriminated against?
We don't know the language of the actual gift. We don't know the exact criteria of the scholarships. We don't know the race, ethnicity or sex of the person who made the gift. This entire debate is based on someone deciding what they think someone else they don't know was thinking. Mostly in order to score political points.
Well I commend you on your expansive view of human nature, however I believe the vast majority of folks (including me) would be offended by this.
Respectfully, I don't buy it. I think if a minority group was specified it would have been mentioned. Alutian Islanders and women to receive scholarship!
And could you point to me the exact language on the legal documentation that accompanied the gift that DIDN"T make any specifications or that specified that the only people ineligible for any money from this individual are White Anglo Saxon American Males Preferrably from a Protestant Background and Northern European Bloodline?
I think this makes it worse, the donor is specifically discriminating against people of European decent.
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