Phoenix's heat and the stupidity that goes with it (Flagstaff: home, babysitters)

[phetaroi]

Just an observation -- some people are being a bit snarky about the foolishness of "outsiders" hiking during the hot summer weather...but are breaking one of the most basic rules of hiking -- don't hike alone.

[wase4711]

here's another likely example...too early to tell who it was..

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ent/910769002/

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by wase4711

here's another likely example...too early to tell who it was..

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ent/910769002/

Today was not the day for taking a hike in the desert. It was obscene hot out there. Tomorrow will be worse.

[wase4711]

agree; it was hard just walking the dog at 7 am, as it was already 99 degrees..can't imagine why anyone, aside from a pro athlete or triathlete pro would even consider hiking on days like this..and, to make it worse, when they get into trouble, as they most likely will, our first responders have to go and risk their lives to save these idiots..

[BIG CATS]

Originally Posted by wase4711

agree; it was hard just walking the dog at 7 am, as it was already 99 degrees..can't imagine why anyone, aside from a pro athlete or triathlete pro would even consider hiking on days like this..and, to make it worse, when they get into trouble, as they most likely will, our first responders have to go and risk their lives to save these idiots..

Yep! More than once Ive seen people being hauled off the mountains. The poor responders look miserable. They have 3 guys on each side of this bizarre one-wheeled stretcher, one holding the fluids, and two to three others to alternate and share the work load. All because people didn't bring enough water, or think they could handle the heat.

[locolife]

Originally Posted by wase4711

agree; it was hard just walking the dog at 7 am, as it was already 99 degrees..can't imagine why anyone, aside from a pro athlete or triathlete pro would even consider hiking on days like this..and, to make it worse, when they get into trouble, as they most likely will, our first responders have to go and risk their lives to save these idiots..

Most of us who do go are out way earlier than 7am, I’m actually done by 7 as I need to be to work by 8. The drier air actually caused our temps to tick down a few degrees this morning from where it had been, my watch tracks temps throughout all activities and today was the lowest readings out of the last 7 days.

If you know what you’re doing it’s fine to be out at the right time of day but with the exception of a few rare cases we usually hear of things going wrong when people made some really bad decisions, nobody should be out there from 10-5pm right now, it’s just too dang hot and how that’s not abundantly clear is beyond me.

I feel bad this still happens but we have signs at trail heads, weather warnings on the news and mobile phones, I don’t know what else can be done? We can’t realistically place guards at every trail head to prevent people from heading in when it’s over 100 out, just like they can’t do the same in cold climates where people face frost bite, falling through frozen lakes, and worse... it’s just the reality of nature’s power.

[Slater]

When I was in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates with the military, I noticed that I never saw many local people out in the heat of the day. Most seemed to come out after sundown when it was cooler. Guess they have more sense than us.

[wase4711]

The humidity fell back to around 11% in the late afternoon, and even though it was 110, it felt so much better than it has felt; either way, I couldn't imagine hiking at these temps..

[locolife]

Originally Posted by wase4711

The humidity fell back to around 11% in the late afternoon, and even though it was 110, it felt so much better than it has felt; either way, I couldn't imagine hiking at these temps..

It'll be kicking back up again starting tomorrow, there's a disturbance off the West coast of Mexico that is still too far to predict an exact path but generally heading North. When hurricane remnants push our way things can get really interesting.

I'll never forget the one in 2014 that dropped something like 5" of rain in 24 hours and completely submerged large sections of I-10.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...back/31563463/

I doubt we'll see anything like that but I do keep an eye out for organized Pacific Storms heading North off of the Baja Mexico coast. With the Pacific Waters starting to warm for the impending El Nino this winter it could get a bit more interesting.

[Colt AZ]

Originally Posted by locolife

It'll be kicking back up again starting tomorrow, there's a disturbance off the West coast of Mexico that is still too far to predict an exact path but generally heading North. When hurricane remnants push our way things can get really interesting.

I'll never forget the one in 2014 that dropped something like 5" of rain in 24 hours and completely submerged large sections of I-10.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...back/31563463/

I doubt we'll see anything like that but I do keep an eye out for organized Pacific Storms heading North off of the Baja Mexico coast. With the Pacific Waters starting to warm for the impending El Nino this winter it could get a bit more interesting.

"The 2018 Pacific hurricane season is an ongoing event in the annual cycle of tropical cyclone formation. The season officially began on May 15 in the eastern Pacific, and on June 1 in the central Pacific; they will both end on November 30. ... The first named storm of the season, Hurricane Aletta, formed on June 6."

Yep. When Pacific hurricanes ramp up, that can mean much good news for the Southwest, and Arizona has been the beneficiary of many. Stay tuned. We may once again be on the edge of wetness...