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Old 06-26-2015, 11:23 AM
 
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Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised View Post
When people visited the Superbowl last year, it was too rainy. Therefore they don't need to look at any websites, Phoenix is too rainy for their tastes.
I'm really not sure what you're arguing... Phoenix is too hot and too dry for my taste... Phoenix is much hotter and drier than most metros in the world. Have you actually ever been in Phoenix other than to visit?

 
Old 06-26-2015, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Victory Mansions, Airstrip One
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When I was there, March and April saw plenty of days 90+ or close to it... I don't need to look at any website, Phoenix is too hot for my taste.
Sure, it's too hot for a lot of people. If the weather were nice all year round there would be twenty or thirty million people in Phoenix instead of four million. Most likely I would not be in Phoenix except for a good job that I have here, and so I make the best of it.

You don't need to exaggerate to make your point. It does get plenty hot. Right now we are seeing 110+ for many days in a row, which of course is not pleasant. But honestly, March is typically very nice. You had the misfortune of visiting when the temps were 10-15 degrees above the norm.
 
Old 06-26-2015, 11:38 AM
 
Location: St. George, Utah
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Well, when you say things like "to say it's a 2 month mosquito free year here is insane", sounds like youre calling me a liar, which I am not. Many, many, many people have mosquito problems in AZ, including me. In fact, I have a bigger problem here than I did in most areas in IL, its not a joke. And the skeeters here carry West Nile, so its a bit scary. I know mosquitos everywhere can carry that disease, but the problem seems more prevalent in AZ.

And FYI, I live in central Scottsdale, nowhere near any big bodies of water. The closest water to me would be the lake on Scottsdale Rd and McCormick, and thats 2+ miles from me. There is absolutely zero water other than what puddles up during watering, which evaporates rather quickly. Unless there is someone in the neighborhood with a nasty, unkept pool, I have no idea where theyre coming from.
It doesn't take a large body of water at all. A small amount of standing water will breed thousands, and quickly anywhere. Add Arizona's year-round relatively warm weather, and the mosquitos thrive! Not in swimming pools unless they are unfiltered and unused. Even our horse troughs (in MT) get enough movement daily that they don't tend to breed mosquitos, but I have also found larvae in our cats' water dish, a red wagon left out in the rain, and a wadded-up tarp laying next to the barn.

So it's hard to identify and eliminate all the potential sources.

Lots of golf courses in Scottsdale...
ETA: I always wonder if they spray or something where we are, as I haven't seen mosquitos at all at our house in AZ.

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Old 06-26-2015, 11:47 AM
 
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Sure, it's too hot for a lot of people. If the weather were nice all year round there would be twenty or thirty million people in Phoenix instead of four million. Most likely I would not be in Phoenix except for a good job that I have here, and so I make the best of it.

You don't need to exaggerate to make your point. It does get plenty hot. Right now we are seeing 110+ for many days in a row, which of course is not pleasant. But honestly, March is typically very nice. You had the misfortune of visiting when the temps were 10-15 degrees above the norm.
... I give up.
 
Old 06-26-2015, 11:57 AM
 
Location: St. George, Utah
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... I give up.
And I've spent a week in Phoenix in March (with the idea of escaping the cold, long "spring" weather in MT), expecting the usual lovely weather, and enduring high 40s and low 50s! I was so irritated, lol. Might as well have stayed home that year...But I didn't assume that the one experience meant every March was that way. I kept coming back and do enjoy being in AZ every month of the year.

Not sure what point you're frustrated about trying to make, LongNote. I think everyone is clear that Phoenix isn't your cup of tea if that's it. Also, yes most people are aware that it's hotter and drier in PHX than in most metro areas because...wait for it....THE DESERT. Convincing others that it's miserable there in March thru October is just off base to anyone who is the least bit familiar with the place. I mean unless you just kind of like chilly weather, which is okay too. Different people like different things. I like it hotter than most. But I do think it's tolerable for most people most of the time, and its "intolerable" stretch is shorter than most bad weather seasons in most other areas. Any area we've found with more "perfect" weather is either very crowded or has very high cost of living. Or both.
 
Old 06-26-2015, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Valley of the Sun
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Well, when you say things like "to say it's a 2 month mosquito free year here is insane", sounds like youre calling me a liar, which I am not. Many, many, many people have mosquito problems in AZ, including me. In fact, I have a bigger problem here than I did in most areas in IL, its not a joke. And the skeeters here carry West Nile, so its a bit scary. I know mosquitos everywhere can carry that disease, but the problem seems more prevalent in AZ.

And FYI, I live in central Scottsdale, nowhere near any big bodies of water. The closest water to me would be the lake on Scottsdale Rd and McCormick, and thats 2+ miles from me. There is absolutely zero water other than what puddles up during watering, which evaporates rather quickly. Unless there is someone in the neighborhood with a nasty, unkept pool, I have no idea where theyre coming from.
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I found mosquito larvae in my cat's water bowl.

I also found larvae in a tire where a little rain water had accumulated.

It doesn't take much water.
No intent on calling you a liar Big Cats, but that just isn't common. I don't want others getting that impression of Phoenix. I am sorry you are dealing with that. I love Phoenix for the relatively no bugs all year. I grew up in Montana and we dealt with Mosquitos all summer and it sucked since I liked to fish. I can go outside at my place here almost any time of year and be bug free. I have never had a Mosquito bite at our current house. Any guests we have comment on how there are no bugs here and how awesome it is to be outside and not be bothered. We then blacklight for scorpions to freak them out!

It's very likely a neighbor has standing water. As the poster above states, it takes the smallest amount to breed hundreds. A stock pile of any amount of junk in the backyard collecting water, an animal water dish or a leaking sprinkler that pools water when it's on every day can do it.

I'd call the county and ask what they can do. It CAN be a health risk.
 
Old 06-27-2015, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Hyrule
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No intent on calling you a liar Big Cats, but that just isn't common. I don't want others getting that impression of Phoenix. I am sorry you are dealing with that. I love Phoenix for the relatively no bugs all year. I grew up in Montana and we dealt with Mosquitos all summer and it sucked since I liked to fish. I can go outside at my place here almost any time of year and be bug free. I have never had a Mosquito bite at our current house. Any guests we have comment on how there are no bugs here and how awesome it is to be outside and not be bothered. We then blacklight for scorpions to freak them out!

It's very likely a neighbor has standing water. As the poster above states, it takes the smallest amount to breed hundreds. A stock pile of any amount of junk in the backyard collecting water, an animal water dish or a leaking sprinkler that pools water when it's on every day can do it.

I'd call the county and ask what they can do. It CAN be a health risk.
We have had a record number of calls this year on skeeters because of more rain and earlier than we usually do. If the monsoons start up, so will the calls again.
We do have an issue with them, and I would consider yourself lucky if you don't. The night time brings the kind that usually carry West Nile. We have people who get that yearly here. It really depends on your location and bug issues. A lot of times on this forum we will get some people with not bugs, never seen one, etc. and get the same amount with a lot. So it varies.

But, there is no doubt we deal with mosquito issues every year. It's always on the news. This year has been a bit worse than most.
 
Old 06-27-2015, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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We have had a record number of calls this year on skeeters because of more rain and earlier than we usually do. If the monsoons start up, so will the calls again.
We do have an issue with them, and I would consider yourself lucky if you don't. The night time brings the kind that usually carry West Nile. We have people who get that yearly here. It really depends on your location and bug issues. A lot of times on this forum we will get some people with not bugs, never seen one, etc. and get the same amount with a lot. So it varies.

But, there is no doubt we deal with mosquito issues every year. It's always on the news. This year has been a bit worse than most.
I am one of the fortunate ones. We have no mosquitoes, only scorpions.
 
Old 06-27-2015, 09:56 PM
 
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I created an account just to say that AZ, while fun for awhile, became a never-ending sun bath. After 6 years of living in Tempe/Scottsdale 101 loop corner off Pima Princess, I lost it. I think my breaking point was during Thanksgiving of '13. I was sitting there with the AC on and it was still in the 90's. That was also a dry year I believe so there was no variation in weather(no rain, no clouds, etc). Honestly, I don't know why they employ weathermen in that state. I guess they get some action 3-7 times a year when a monsoon or haboob rolls in. Anyways, I don't want to rant so I digress. I originally came from Seattle so I knew a life outside of AZ. Like most people on this thread, I fled the never-ending rain and cold to get the never-ending sun. AZ turned out to be like a crappy relationship almost. There was the initial romanticizing period where I loved every second of being there (great weather, great women, lots of malls, etc). This lasted about 2-3 years I'd say. This was followed by minor annoyances such as people always talking about their state of origin like it's some holy land or having to change my tire in 118 degree heat. It all culminated in a deep desire to leave. Not back to Seattle, but to somewhere where there's seasons and variation. I ended up in Minnesota where my wife's originally from and I love it. Honestly, I could still be in the romanticizing phase right now (it's been about 2 years), but I love having an actual winter, spring, summer, and fall. It's great! Not to mention the fact that people overall love this state and don't talk about other states as if they're desperate to move back. I will actually be transitioning to NYC in August for a new job so we'll see how it pans out there, but I would move back to Minneapolis in a heartbeat. However, I tell my wife that it'd take a very, very high salary offer to get me to move back to AZ (an unrealistic salary). The heat just beats on your soul like a switch till you just can't take it anymore, which was 6.5 years for me. I'd say give it a shot. My parents are actually moving there for their pre-retirement so I'll always be connected to the state in some way. I'll only be visiting them though between the months of December and February. Best of luck to all those enjoying today's sandstorm and to those looking to move to AZ, please have some foresight into what the state might be like post-romanticizing period.

P.S. Don't listen to the locals on moving advice. Most have never lived outside of AZ so they don't really have any sort of baseline and are very loyal to their roots (not a bad thing).
 
Old 06-27-2015, 10:10 PM
 
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I created an account just to say that AZ, while fun for awhile, became a never-ending sun bath. After 6 years of living in Tempe/Scottsdale 101 loop corner off Pima Princess, I lost it. I think my breaking point was during Thanksgiving of '13. I was sitting there with the AC on and it was still in the 90's. That was also a dry year I believe so there was no variation in weather(no rain, no clouds, etc). Honestly, I don't know why they employ weathermen in that state. I guess they get some action 3-7 times a year when a monsoon or haboob rolls in. Anyways, I don't want to rant so I digress. I originally came from Seattle so I knew a life outside of AZ. Like most people on this thread, I fled the never-ending rain and cold to get the never-ending sun. AZ turned out to be like a crappy relationship almost. There was the initial romanticizing period where I loved every second of being there (great weather, great women, lots of malls, etc). This lasted about 2-3 years I'd say. This was followed by minor annoyances such as people always talking about their state of origin like it's some holy land or having to change my tire in 118 degree heat. It all culminated in a deep desire to leave. Not back to Seattle, but to somewhere where there's seasons and variation. I ended up in Minnesota where my wife's originally from and I love it. Honestly, I could still be in the romanticizing phase right now (it's been about 2 years), but I love having an actual winter, spring, summer, and fall. It's great! Not to mention the fact that people overall love this state and don't talk about other states as if they're desperate to move back. I will actually be transitioning to NYC in August for a new job so we'll see how it pans out there, but I would move back to Minneapolis in a heartbeat. However, I tell my wife that it'd take a very, very high salary offer to get me to move back to AZ (an unrealistic salary). The heat just beats on your soul like a switch till you just can't take it anymore, which was 6.5 years for me. I'd say give it a shot. My parents are actually moving there for their pre-retirement so I'll always be connected to the state in some way. I'll only be visiting them though between the months of December and February. Best of luck to all those enjoying today's sandstorm and to those looking to move to AZ, please have some foresight into what the state might be like post-romanticizing period.

P.S. Don't listen to the locals on moving advice. Most have never lived outside of AZ so they don't really have any sort of baseline and are very loyal to their roots (not a bad thing).
I tolerate Phoenix but LOVE Arizona. Phoenix is where I work but I PLAY pretty much everywhere above 3000 feet altitude every chance I can. Arizona has more ecological zones than all but California. The people who get burnt out here are largely individuals who do not leave The Valley of The Sun to discover the many diverse altitudes and climates here. I could never confine myself to Phoenix year around. The weather is redundant . The banana belt in the state is 3000-4000 ft altitude...The problem is communities at this altitude like Cottonwood and Globe offer few employment opportunities despite having a touch of the 4 seasons without the extreme heat of Phoenix or the extreme morning low winter temps in places such as Flagstaff.

You are right about the TV weathercasters...They aren't meteorologists because the Fox 10 team does not have any degreed meteorologists...Real meteorologists get a high off active weather so you get midwest transplants with communications and political science degrees saying sunny 350 days a year on the air. God bless them. As easy as it gets. Only tv market with easier forecasts is Yuma because they get even less monsoonal moisture there !
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