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None of which you know personally right? So why wouldn't you believe the poster above?
Well, when videos of what the residents of certain areas are saying confirm the snow removal is non-existent, when we have examples of deaths due to the fact the emergency vehicles and personnel couldn't get through...for hours, when we have pictorial evidence that corroborate the claims of neglect.....why would YOU believe an anonymous internet poster making unsubstantiated claims?
I know why, because having this one little "story" helps you cling to the excuses we have heard for the union.
No one you know personally, right? Why believe this one story over the examples and numerous stories of RESIDENTS on the ground?
Well, when videos of what the residents of certain areas are saying confirm the snow removal is non-existent, when we have examples of deaths due to the fact the emergency vehicles and personnel couldn't get through...for hours, when we have pictorial evidence that corroborate the claims of neglect.....why would YOU believe an anonymous internet poster making unsubstantiated claims?
I know why, because having this one little "story" helps you cling to the excuses we have heard for the union.
No one you know personally, right? Why believe this one story over the examples and numerous stories of RESIDENTS on the ground?
Because I can see the whole picture objectively, unlike you....
Because I can see the whole picture objectively, unlike you....
Uh huh, sure you can. Most on the Left will support the union beyond all reason. This is one of those cases. I imagine if it were private contractors whose inaction led to the deaths off 2 babies, you might have a different response, but since an arm of the democrat party is involved, the union, there will be no objectivity.
Uh huh, sure you can. Most on the Left will support the union beyond all reason. This is one of those cases. I imagine if it were private contractors whose inaction led to the deaths off 2 babies, you might have a different response, but since an arm of the democrat party is involved, the union, there will be no objectivity.
The only thing we know about union "involvement" at this point, sanrene, is that the drivers are union workers. We know nothing of the circumstances other than that.
The only thing we know about union "involvement" at this point, sanrene, is that the drivers are union workers. We know nothing of the circumstances other than that.
Has anyone that thinks we slowed down ever worked in a major snow storm . Well I have worked in a bunch of storms this year I was plowing the west side hiway at one point I could not see the truck that was in front of me never has it been this bad where we requested to shut down the hiway because it got too unsafe we did our best to keep the streets open but it was out of controll I have family. And some who are old I tell you people this I would never put my family or friends in harms way I went to work and gave 110% to keep this city open and too keep the residents of nyc safe please think before you people post us sent workers all have family all no people that couldn't get to work but wed did do our best thank you for all the support
Thank you biggeo for putting some sanity back into this discussion.
The only thing we know about union "involvement" at this point, sanrene, is that the drivers are union workers. We know nothing of the circumstances other than that.
Oh, we know quite a bit more than that, don't we?
We know there was an investigation launched upon hearing rumors of a pending union action, we know that drivers were skipping streets, in fact driving right over the streets without plowing an inch, lifting their blades, slowing down on their routes, we have resident witnesses that observed this behavior, we know whistle blower(s) have come forward telling us they were given such orders and more in this "action", we have deaths, attributable to the inability of emergency workers to reach these people, because the streets were impassable, we have over 400 that called in "sick" (a sure sign of a union action), we have the fact and knowledge that many members of this union were disgruntled and unhappy with layoffs, we have the fact that 100+ supervisor are to be demoted/salary slashed for budgetary reasons....so yeah, we have a LOT more that what you claim.
We know there was an investigation launched upon hearing rumors of a pending union action, we know that drivers were skipping streets, in fact driving right over the streets without plowing an inch, lifting their blades, slowing down on their routes, we have resident witnesses that observed this behavior, we know whistle blower(s) have come forward telling us they were given such orders and more in this "action", we have deaths, attributable to the inability of emergency workers to reach these people, because the streets were impassable, we have over 400 that called in "sick" (a sure sign of a union action), we have the fact and knowledge that many members of this union were disgruntled and unhappy with layoffs, we have the fact that 100+ supervisor are to be demoted/salary slashed for budgetary reasons....so yeah, we have a LOT more that what you claim.
You have nothing but biased assumptions...
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