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This is exactly right. The unions have turned into thuggish, greedy entities.
If a private company wants to subject its workforce to a union, that it their right and will answer to their competitors in the marketplace. Govt services which we ALL pay for and cannot get elsewhere should not be allowed to be unionized.
Well, when videos of what the residents of certain areas are saying confirm the snow removal is non-existent, when we have examples of deaths due to the fact the emergency vehicles and personnel couldn't get through...for hours, when we have pictorial evidence that corroborate the claims of neglect.....why would YOU believe an anonymous internet poster making unsubstantiated claims?
I know why, because having this one little "story" helps you cling to the excuses we have heard for the union.
No one you know personally, right? Why believe this one story over the examples and numerous stories of RESIDENTS on the ground?
Why? Because your posting history proves you can't be objective or far-minded with anything that involves a democrat or a union member and the rumor you are basing all your posts on in this thread came from an anonymous union snitch yet to be proven to have any validation. It's sad when people die due to weather related causes as severe as this storm was. BUT that doesn't mean those deaths were preventative, given the extreme conditions the city workers had to deal with.
And how is the poster above who actually plowed during this storm posting unsubstantiated claims? He said he had family and friends who he wouldn't want to put in harm's way by not giving 110% to his job. That sure has a ring of truth to most rational, thinking people. He said at one point they couldn't see the trucks in front of them and it was unsafe to keep plowing. With level 2 hurricane force winds blowing snow around, that sure has a ring of truth to most rational, thinking people.
I swear, I have never seen the Left so, so dismissive of whistle blowers. Usually they embrace these brave souls...but not now...only because an arm of the democrat party is being damaged by the accusations.
I would also like to know what people witnessed was it trucks driving slow was was it plows not all the way down. If so here is the reasns one you just can't speed in the snow example 1 bus driveing on fort ham parkway going to fast crashing into store front and for the plows not all the way down does any one know how much 2 feet of snow way per cubic ft example 2 plow driveer has it all the way down gets stuck truck can't handle the weight has to get towed out wasting time and man power so proper way is to skim off top a nd keep going around till you can push it any other question feel free to ask we are not in contract negotiateons nor did not have any sanitation layoffs
Why? Because your posting history proves you can't be objective or far-minded with anything that involves a democrat or a union member and the rumor you are basing all your posts on in this thread came from an anonymous union snitch yet to be proven to have any validation. It's sad when people die due to weather related causes as severe as this storm was. BUT that doesn't mean those deaths were preventative, given the extreme conditions the city workers had to deal with.
And how is the poster above who actually plowed during this storm posting unsubstantiated claims? He said he had family and friends who he wouldn't want to put in harm's way by not giving 110% to his job. That sure has a ring of truth to most rational, thinking people. He said at one point they couldn't see the trucks in front of them and it was unsafe to keep plowing. With level 2 hurricane force winds blowing snow around, that sure has a ring of truth to most rational, thinking people.
Keywords...."most rational, thinking people". There's little of that from union haters.
Why? Because your posting history proves you can't be objective or far-minded with anything that involves a democrat or a union member and the rumor you are basing all your posts on in this thread came from an anonymous union snitch yet to be proven to have any validation. It's sad when people die due to weather related causes as severe as this storm was. BUT that doesn't mean those deaths were preventative, given the extreme conditions the city workers had to deal with.
And how is the poster above who actually plowed during this storm posting unsubstantiated claims? He said he had family and friends who he wouldn't want to put in harm's way by not giving 110% to his job. That sure has a ring of truth to most rational, thinking people. He said at one point they couldn't see the trucks in front of them and it was unsafe to keep plowing. With level 2 hurricane force winds blowing snow around, that sure has a ring of truth to most rational, thinking people.
Oh! Whistle blowers are now "snitches"! This can only be characterized because the Left are tried and true union supporters, no matter their actions, or inaction shall we say, probably caused the deaths of 2 babies.
Doesn't take a lot of imagination to include such a thing when you have a blizzard going on. Yeah, gale force winds, couldn't see a thing! Is that the only reason you believe?
I prefer to believe those independent accounts on the ground, those once-cherished by the Left whistle blowers, rather than an anonymous internet poster who tell me what I might want to hear.
I swear, I have never seen the Left so, so dismissive of whistle blowers. Usually they embrace these brave souls...but not now...only because an arm of the democrat party is being damaged by the accusations.
It has nothing to do with the democratic party, it is about working men and women. You are the one
making this into a political pi$$ing match.
We know there was an investigation launched upon hearing rumors of a pending union action, we know that drivers were skipping streets, in fact driving right over the streets without plowing an inch, lifting their blades, slowing down on their routes, we have resident witnesses that observed this behavior, we know whistle blower(s) have come forward telling us they were given such orders and more in this "action", we have deaths, attributable to the inability of emergency workers to reach these people, because the streets were impassable, we have over 400 that called in "sick" (a sure sign of a union action), we have the fact and knowledge that many members of this union were disgruntled and unhappy with layoffs, we have the fact that 100+ supervisor are to be demoted/salary slashed for budgetary reasons....so yeah, we have a LOT more that what you claim.
Give it up, Sarene. Ask any city snow removal worker in any town---unionized or not---and they will tell you that every time it snows some yo-yo will call up complaining that a snowplower is driving around with their plows raised. You call them "whistle blowers" but they really are people who don't have a clue about what is actually going on. And your "sure sign of a union action" because 400 workers couldn't get into work? 18" to 28" inches of snow and up to 80 miles an hour winds, snowing 3-4 inches an hour, are the more logical explanations for an absentee rate that doesn't sound all that bad (percentage wise) given the facts mother nature provided.
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Originally Posted by sanrene
I would say the unreasonable excuses given by the Left, for the union, is making it political.
Not "unreasonable excuses." People here are trying to educate you about snow removal but you refuse to hear anything but a rumor spread by one Republican elected official in NYC who was supposedly told of a worker slow down by a "secret union informer."
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