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Old 12-22-2012, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Originally Posted by chronic65 View Post
I don't know what "isipid" is or means, but, if you meant to write "insipid", well, yes I agree but, when I was reading your post, that is what popped into my little pea brain. I thought an aging hippy might like it. Maybe I haven't left the 8th grade.
So excuse my typo, it's not easy typing on an ipod.
You knew it was stupid and it came to your mind.
You named your brain, I didn't.
Do you mean "hippie" because I'm not very hippy.

Apparently your last sentence is accurate.
I've seen some of the logic you ineffectually attempt.

Why the hell would I like a stupid song, because you do?
Geez.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:03 AM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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"We" - who's we? Are you a doctor? No? Then leave the decisions to the professionals.

You do know that we are discussing only 1.4% (.014) of all abortions performed in the US? Abortion Surveillance --- United States, 2003
So you're okay with executing innocent people provided they're only 1.4% of all executions?

Btw, there are about 1 million abortions per year. That 1-2% is a lot of babies. 10,000 - 20,000 for the stringent figure they throw out. That doesn't include abortions fudged by doctors to get around state regulations.

And it's not up to doctors (who get paid lots of money to do abortions) to determine when human life starts. If viability can start on the 20th week, or at least has started before. Common sense is to push it back weeks so no viable babies are aborted. A compassionate person at least thinks this way. I thought liberals were compassionate
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:08 AM
 
Location: California
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I know abortions after the 1st trimester are rare and those that occur most likely do so because something is wrong. I am not presumptuous enough to expect anyone to explain to ME why something is being done or even being considered, a doctor is involved and that's all I need to know. We can't micromanage some things, especially the ones that are not our business. All we can do is accept that we don't approve of something and come to grips with the fact that the world doesn't care what we approve of, we can only micromanage ourselves. At some point it becomes an obsession, and that's also our issue.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:09 AM
 
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So you're okay with executing innocent people provided they're only 1.4% of all executions?
A 20 week fetus does not possess the neural networks to process thought, an essential part of being a "people." You may believe an insentient pre-person is the equivalent of a fully functioning human being but I don't. So, to answer your silly question: No, I'm not OK with executing innocent people. Period.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:10 AM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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All we can do is accept that we don't approve of something and come to grips with the fact that the world doesn't care what we approve of, we can only micromanage ourselves. At some point it becomes an obsession, and that's also our issue.
You mean like gun control?
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:11 AM
 
Location: California
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So you're okay with executing innocent people provided they're only 1.4% of all executions?
I'm "ok" knowing there are tons of horrible things going on right now to children and adults in this world that I can't do anything to stop. I don't obsess over it because it would cripple me in life.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:13 AM
 
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You mean like gun control?
What does gun control have to do with abortion??
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:13 AM
 
Location: California
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You mean like gun control?
No, not like gun control. We have ultimate power to do whatever we want with man made devices. It doens't control anyone physically either. There will always be control and regulations when it comes to products, it's just a matter of degree. And even then I accpet that some people will do an end-run on whatever laws are in place.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:13 AM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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A 20 week fetus does not possess the neural networks to process thought, an essential part of being a "people." You may believe an insentient pre-person is the equivalent of a fully functioning human being but I don't. So, to answer your silly question: No, I'm not OK with executing innocent people. Period.
That's very interesting. Does a 25-week old fetus suddenly begin to process thought? Or does it take the traumatic experience of going out the mother's vagina for the baby to suddenly start possessing those "neural networks." Or maybe that baby doesn't yet either, and we should allow the mother to strangle her or him?

Maybe you don't possess any neural networks considering that idiotic statement above
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:14 AM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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No, not like gun control. We have ultimate power to do whatever we want with man made devices. There will always be control and regulations when it comes to products, it's just a matter of degree. And even then I accpet that some people will do an end-run on whatever laws are in place.
And we have ultimate power to do what we want with people's actions. Abortion is a procedure and procedures can be ultimately banned. Like it was before. Is this hard to grasp?
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