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Old 06-03-2013, 12:18 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
Scratch out "It takes a village" and replace it with "it takes a government"
More accurate: It takes the government AND the village to raise these teen moms' children, and comprehensive sex education lowers those rates. Would you rather they have a baby and go on welfare (as is typically the case), or learn the facts before it's too late?

Furthermore, this is just a website - not a school program, mandated education, etc. Probably costs a LOT less to maintain than even the cost of one unplanned pregnancy/baby. And part of raising well-informed children involves using available resources, which is what they are providing here. A good parent might sit down at the computer WITH their child, explaining anything that isn't clear along the way. What's wrong with that?

 
Old 06-03-2013, 12:31 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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sorry, I do not need to read the website you suggested and no one is saying ignorance is bliss. Where do you get that idea?
Maybe from the fact that you refuse to even LOOK at the website on which this entire thread & discussion is based? I think you just officially broke my irony meter.

(you do realize that wasn't just a random website suggestion, but in fact the very site in question - right?)
 
Old 06-03-2013, 02:28 AM
 
Location: South Africa
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I looked at the site and really looked hard for inappropriate graphics info etc. Nothing untoward, just basic info, a pic of a young lass sprouting boobs fully clothed and that is not like you would not see that in RL.

All this hoo haa is laughable. Just go to Wikipedia and search on human reproduction and click through links and you will see pics of genitalia. But if you think teens are going to google wikipedia, well enjoy your isolation bubble. There are a plethora pics on the web from porn sites.

10 yo females are these days entering puberty ealier for whatever reason, you cannot wait till 15 or 16 anymore. My son was through puberty at age 11 and my daughter 12 and if we did not teach them sex ed, they could technically have experimented and have had a pregnancy.

You guys IIRC start school like we do in SA at age 7. Where I grew up this was 5 and by the time puberty kicked in, we were all in HS and usually all boys or all girls. Both my kids were at junior school when they went through puberty meaning sex ed had to take place at junior school.
 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Originally Posted by gizmo980 View Post
More accurate: It takes the government AND the village to raise these teen moms' children, and comprehensive sex education lowers those rates. Would you rather they have a baby and go on welfare (as is typically the case), or learn the facts before it's too late?

Furthermore, this is just a website - not a school program, mandated education, etc. Probably costs a LOT less to maintain than even the cost of one unplanned pregnancy/baby. And part of raising well-informed children involves using available resources, which is what they are providing here. A good parent might sit down at the computer WITH their child, explaining anything that isn't clear along the way. What's wrong with that?
Government seems to be taken more control of it.
It's the government doing the education now and determining when to start it.
It's the government now getting into providing contraceptives.

And the government already provides them food, medical services and counseling.

The "village" didn't do its job so the government is taking over.
 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:13 AM
 
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Maybe from the fact that you refuse to even LOOK at the website on which this entire thread & discussion is based? I think you just officially broke my irony meter.

(you do realize that wasn't just a random website suggestion, but in fact the very site in question - right?)
Wait a minute.....she didn't even bother to go on the website & see what it truly was all about? So, she's spreading misinformation to her granddaughter, just like the OP is trying to do. See, this is the problem w/people like that. They don't bother to check facts, they just overreact & start spreading what they want to spread regardless of the truth. I can't be bothered with people like that, no matter how you try to educate them, they insist on remaining ignorant.
 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I found nothing offensive about the content of this website. Teen pregnancy has been substantially declining in the U.S. since the 90's. Having access to more factual information has likely contributed to better outcomes.
 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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And I'm sure that all the girls in that age group are just flocking to this site.

FWIW, I have no objection to the site.
 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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teaching masturbation to 10 year olds is education...yea right...

Hey look on the bright side even though they can't read or write but they sure know how to masturbate.
Did you actually go to the link of the website created by government in 2002 ?
 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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NO! The parents of too many prepubescent and just pubescent children have failed, by the example of the number of unwanted pregnancies, to teach the realities of their bodies and of sex, so the village stepped in to do the job. Teaching kids the reality of sex is far more important than maintaining any supposed "innocence" to please the prudes.

Back in the day about 6 decades ago I was not taught about sex by my terminally prudish parents or in school. (That would have shocked nearly everybody. Sex did not exist for their perfect children. Hell, if you listened to them it barely existed for adults.) I was taught by the kids I hung around with. We taught each other sometimes by example. The trick was to separate the nonsense from the real. I still remember the lesions.
 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Yea right...To the lefties...hey junior look at all porn you want on the net.
Quantum leap to porn?
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