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So, if someone comes to my door selling Girl Scout Cookies, asking me if I heard the "good news", looking for a lost dog, canvassing for a politician or wanting to read my meter, I have the right to shoot them?
Cool.
Just make sure the first shot is a kill shot. You don't want to get sued. In some states you may want to let them inside before shooting.
So, if someone comes to my door selling Girl Scout Cookies, asking me if I heard the "good news", looking for a lost dog, canvassing for a politician or wanting to read my meter, I have the right to shoot them?
Cool.
Only if you fear for your life. Girl scouts or not.
I was responding the the following quote. Evidently, they just have to be on my front porch, facing the door. Nothing else.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Lennox 70
HOW is this NOT SELF DEFENSE? She is on the
man's property, on his PORCH, FACING the front door. Here in West Virginia the
man would probably not be charged, and if he was charged would almost definitely
not be convicted by a jury. I'll tell you if I'm on that jury, then this man
walks. I know not to trespass on other people's property. And I have signs on my
property warning other people not to trespass on mine.
I was responding the the following quote. Evidently, they just have to be on my front porch, facing the door. Nothing else.
I know you were:-)
I guess it's so foreign to me how trigger happy some people are. If you really are scared for your life, by all means defend yourself as you see fit. There it's nothing wrong with that. But some scenarios like this one makes you wonder.
People live in constant fear in Detroit. 50 years of failed Liberal and Black political leaders have destroyed the city so what do you expect?
I don't care why he shot this woman. Fact is, if a person has not broken into your house, you do not shoot. I don't see you allowing excuses for Blacks who commit crimes, so don't make excuses for this man who shot this woman. He committed murder, period.
She was drunk and most likely on drugs, banging around a home at 3am, don't blame the home owner for being scared of blacks, blame the blacks that do most of the crime for that.
She was drunk and knocking on the door. She didn't break into the house. If a person breaks into a house, by all means, go ahead and shoot. However, she walked away, and was shot from behind. That is murder.
If someone knocks on the door at that hour, you do not have to answer the door at all. As long the person doesn't break in, you don't have to answer anything. Call the police if you don't want that person there.
So what you are saying is that because this was a Black woman, she deserved to get killed. What you are saying is that because of what other Black people have done, she deserves to die as well. Sad, but not surprising.
I blame the owner, because the owner did not have to shoot. I do not care what other persons have done. Let the actions of other Black criminals stick to those individuals. And let the actions of this drunk woman stick to her. But by your own logic, Black people should be punished harsher and treated worse simply because of other Black criminals out there. That is not logical by any means, because it assumes that because a person is Black, automatically that person is a threat, period. It assumes "Blacks don't have the ability to control themselves, so they should be shot". And furthermore, this was murder. This woman walked away. Drunk or not, she walked away. If a person has walked away, you have no reason to shoot that person. Anything else is murder.
He will probably plea deal, he has little defense.
He should be charged with murder. If someone is walking away, do not shoot. It does not matter if someone is drunk or high. If a person has not broken into the house, just call the police. I think you should only shoot if someone has broken in. This woman knocked on the door, then walked away.
The way I see it, this was stupid. Was it stupid of her to walk around drunk, yes. However, killing someone for knocking on your door is extreme. If someone knocked on my door at that hour, I wouldn't answer the door unless I knew who it was. If I don't know who it is, I'm not answering. Simple as that. If the person breaks in, then go ahead and shoot.
He should be charged with murder. If someone is walking away, do not shoot. It does not matter if someone is drunk or high. If a person has not broken into the house, just call the police. I think you should only shoot if someone has broken in. This woman knocked on the door, then walked away.
The way I see it, this was stupid. Was it stupid of her to walk around drunk, yes. However, killing someone for knocking on your door is extreme. If someone knocked on my door at that hour, I wouldn't answer the door unless I knew who it was. If I don't know who it is, I'm not answering. Simple as that. If the person breaks in, then go ahead and shoot.
Since she was shot in the face (not the back as was being eroneously reported by the family) it's hard to say she was walking away. He also admits to accidental discharge so the question at this point is not guilt but rather sentencing IMO.
With no one else to argue the point, if he has no prior criminal record and cooperated with police it's likely the charge would be something like manslaughter. I'm sure the prosecutors will check to see if his guns were legal, if he was on drugs at the time, his medical history (is he really old with mild dementia) as well as his background like if he went around posting on internet forums about itching to shoot trespassers.
Since he didn't leave his own property and given the late hour that will work in favor of his story.
Obviously if it had been 2pm and he'd just wandered into the local mcdonalds and shot her for just standing there it would be murder charges for sure.
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