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There's an elementary school 3 blocks from my house. I've been thinking about doing some community service and looking out for the safety of those kids by grabbing my AR-15, heading down to the school, and patrolling the grounds. Pretty good idea, right?
We'd probably see you on the news.. " man riddled with bullet holes after approaching elementary school with loaded assault rifle".
Firearms do not simply "go off". There is no mention of the way it is being carried. Was it in a proper holster? Was the trigger covered? Was she actually handling the gun when it went off? Did she follow proper safety procedures and not put her finger on the trigger?
Unlike the video, my holster is large enough that is stays vertical against my calf.
I understand what you're saying, but do we want to restrict people's Second Amendment rights themselves by second-guessing the victim when an accident occurs?
That's getting close to saying you only have the right to protect yourself if you've passed some kind of safety and proficiency test.
I understand what you're saying, but do we want to restrict people's Second Amendment rights themselves by second-guessing the victim when an accident occurs?
That's getting close to saying you only have the right to protect yourself if you've passed some kind of safety and proficiency test.
I certainly don't think someone without a degree of training should be allowed to carry a firearm into a school.
I understand what you're saying, but do we want to restrict people's Second Amendment rights themselves by second-guessing the victim when an accident occurs?
That's getting close to saying you only have the right to protect yourself if you've passed some kind of safety and proficiency test.
I'd like a punishment for negligent discharges. It should be enough to compel people to either take formal training or train on their own via video/reading and practice.
Yes, it's getting close to a proficiency test but there's a big difference. In your scenario, the test comes first. In my scenario, it's worth the effort to learn what you are doing. How many people decide to not drive drunk because it's the right thing to do? Probably very few. How many people don't drive drunk because the punishment is harsh enough that it's not worth taking the chance.
How much does it cost to not have a negligent discharge? In the teacher's case, $20 for a holster. In the officer's case, nothing. He should have known to not only check the chamber but also check the magazine.
I certainly don't think someone without a degree of training should be allowed to carry a firearm into a school.
Training is a red herring. There are plenty of people with training who've had their guns go off. Take the officer in that video -- all the training in the world didn't prevent his gun from going off.
Looking at the video, he verified nothing was in the chamber and dropped the slide without checking the magazine. There was one in the mag and it was pulled into the chamber by the slide. He then put his finger on the trigger and squeezed.
"Dumbassedness" is what that is called. Also laying two mags on a table side by each one loaded, the other empty for demonstration purposes is just asking for it. When making a demonstration a "cognitive break" is required by either confining the loaded mags into the gun box and leaving them there or resorting to default of emptying all mags present when demonstrating without intent to fire, especially in a classroom environment.
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