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Old 12-20-2014, 10:05 AM
 
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the benefits of boycott is for other Latin countries not take the totalitarian way of Castro and spread. It has work. Castro has tried for 50 years to spread his totalitarian revolution to Central and South America and it has failed and the boycott is part of that.


Now that we have Cuba on the ropes you want just to save that government without any concessions from the Cuban government?
Cuba on the ropes? Since when?
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Old 12-20-2014, 10:07 AM
 
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the benefits of boycott is for other Latin countries not take the totalitarian way of Castro and spread. It has work. Castro has tried for 50 years to spread his totalitarian revolution to Central and South America and it has failed and the boycott is part of that.


Now that we have Cuba on the ropes you want just to save that government without any concessions from the Cuban government?
Cuba on the ropes? Since when?

Other Latin American countries have often been totalitarian in the past. Usually murderous military dictatorships supported by the USA.
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Old 12-20-2014, 10:07 AM
 
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I already do share much of my "personal property" with my friends so that would not be a great change. However, I do not share with my enemies.

As far as our CIA is concerned I think we could learn a lot more just by reading our enemies newspapers. It is better to know your enemies and perhaps become engaged in mutual trade. Then, if they are still enemies, you can kill them without regret.



yeah its call FREE WILL. You decide who you share your things, not the government.............you don't need a totalitarian government in forcing you to share your things with everybody, that is your decision in how, when and with whom you want to share with.


Society accomplishes far more when you give the people free will and liberties than forcing them with force in doing things of what a minority in a government think what is best for society.
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Old 12-20-2014, 10:12 AM
 
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US policies changed and will change with time. There is nothing to "explain" to 1M Cubans, since a significant number of them supports re-newed ties with Cuba.
But really, I don't see even a single practical reason to block this move. Soon the Castros will be a past episode and new people will lead Cuba. Now it's the best timing to influence the future. .
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Old 12-20-2014, 10:12 AM
 
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Cuba on the ropes? Since when?

Other Latin American countries have often been totalitarian in the past. Usually murderous military dictatorships supported by the USA.


since when? since the Soviet Union collapsed and cut their support. Do you have any clue about Cuba's economy as of right now?


again, the U.S. will support dictators if its for a bigger cause like winning WW 2 and the Cold War or the war on terrorism....after that we put outside pressure to bring reform in those countries or cut support and we have.
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Old 12-20-2014, 10:14 AM
 
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US policies changed and will change with time. There is nothing to "explain" to 1M Cubans, since a significant number of them supports re-newed ties with Cuba.
But really, I don't see even a single practical reason to block this move. Soon the Castros will be an issue of the past and new people will lead Cuba.
History has shown us that the best way to deal with communist countries like Cuba is to open them up to the benefits of capitalism. Once they get used to having nice cars, flat screen TVs and Xboxes there isn't a Castro in the world that can bring them back.
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Old 12-20-2014, 10:19 AM
 
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you tell us, how do you deal with a totalitarian government? and explain that to the million Cuban-Americans in the U.S. that lost everything and rights were violated because of this totalitarian government.


forgive and forget, right? lol.....no formal apology? no reparations?


by the way the boycott works, it has prevented other Latin Republics in taking the same route as Castro and it prevented communism in taking control in South and Central America. It weaken Castro's regime in spreading his totalitarian revolution to other Latin countries.
Are you willing to apologize to Iran, Guatemala, Chile, Peru, Syria, Congo, and Vietnam?

Didn't think so.
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Old 12-20-2014, 10:20 AM
 
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History has shown us that the best way to deal with communist countries like Cuba is to open them up to the benefits of capitalism. Once they get used to having nice cars, flat screen TVs and Xboxes there isn't a Castro in the world that can bring them back.


the best way to help the Cuban people who live in extreme poverty under a totalitarian government is to force the government to make concessions in bringing liberties and democracy if they want an open policy.


if you don't have that, then the only ones that benefits of this is a few in the regime......we seen this play out in other countries how only a few in the regime benefit while the rest of the county suffers.
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Old 12-20-2014, 10:21 AM
 
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It's way overdue. My local Repug Congressman took to the airwaves saying he was wondering "what the world will think of us" for doing this,".
They would say, "Join the party."

Did he really not know that the US is the only country that doesn't have normalized relations with Cuba?
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Old 12-20-2014, 10:22 AM
 
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the best way to help the Cuban people who live in extreme poverty under a totalitarian government is to force the government to make concessions in bringing liberties and democracy if they want an open policy.


if you don't have that, then the only ones that benefits of this is a few in the regime......we seen this play out in other countries how only a few in the regime benefit while the rest of the county suffers.
How has that worked out over the past 50 years?
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