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Old 02-28-2015, 12:52 AM
 
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so he was against something he ended up needing for himself. ok. but don't see a story here
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Old 02-28-2015, 03:02 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Well, insurance doesn't work that way.

Premiums paid by women, for example, go to covering things like testicular and prostate cancer, even though they can't get it.

As far as maternity coverage, the vast majority of pregnancies involve people of both sexes.

And men can`t get ovarian cancer, but that isn`t the issue.

Making babies is a voluntary activity.

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Old 02-28-2015, 03:26 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Voting against their own interest since before time...Murica. "Muh taxes", "Muh Jesus", "Muh land"...hope he gets Obamacare and gets healthy so he can yet again speak against it.
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Old 02-28-2015, 03:40 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Yeah, but his wife has his Viagra and his prostrate cancer covered for him on her policy.

He's also happy as a clam in the sand, he and his wife are insured for that son, they are about to have with top, professional care. It's his child too. The days of leaving the woman in the woods behind a bush with fingers crossed, to give birth, are over.

I must say that I've seen right wing conservatives use the word "compassion", or lack thereof, more in this thread, than the sum total of all the threads I've viewed over 6 years on this board.



Couldn`t find anything on women`s policies now requiring Viagra and prostate cancer coverage, perhaps you have a link.


Some grandfathered individual health plans — the kind you buy yourself, not the kind you get through a job — aren’t required to cover pregnancy and childbirth. If you have a grandfathered individual plan, contact your insurance company to learn about your pregnancy and childbirth coverage.

https://www.healthcare.gov/what-if-i...-get-pregnant/

Beginning Wednesday, all new health insurance plans will be required to provide eight preventive health benefits to women for free.
The benefits include contraceptives, breast-feeding supplies and screenings for gestational diabetes, sexually transmitted infections and domestic violence, as well as routine check-ups for breast and pelvic exams, Pap tests and prenatal care.

Some women get new benefits under Obamacare – The Chart - CNN.com Blogs
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Old 02-28-2015, 04:36 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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No they don't take the house and assets. They put a lien on it and when you sell it, pay off all the final expenses, they get what you owe them, and you get the rest. Just went through that with parents.
Also went through it with the mother of a friend of mine. Medicaid puts first lien on the home in head of any mortgages. Medicaid sets a fair market value so it can't be sold for less. In relation to this thread, since both are still alive the home is sort of safe as long as they are living in it. if one of them moves into an assisted care facility then the rules change.
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Old 02-28-2015, 04:59 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Former Sheriff Richard Mack is part of the "constitutional sheriff" movement and opposes Obamacare. He didn't sign up through the ACA website and has no insurance. He makes the absurd claim that "because they [he and wife] are self-employed, they have no medical insurance". In January 2015 he had a heart attack and last November his wife was hospitalized with serious medical issues
This as nothing to do with ObummerCare but everything to do with just plain being stupid.

I oppose ObummerCare because I oppose the federal government dictating that I must purchase a product sold by a private company.

At the same time, for over 40 years since I was 26 years old, I have always had private health insurance for me and my family. Sometimes I had this provided by my employer and other times I purchased it myself but I always had it. There were times I pays paying over $1,000/month making it my biggest single expense but I still made sure the premium was always paid and we all were covered.

The ex-sheriff is an idiot and that is the end of this story.
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Old 02-28-2015, 05:02 AM
 
Location: NC
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I don't agree that it is begging. I don't see a call for humanity in a dire situation as begging. Maybe that's just me or maybe you have no compassion.
A skid row drug addict is "humanity in a dire situation". I keep the same standard. I wouldn't give them a penny if they were on the street with their hand out. If they were in a program to get better, and giving it everything they had to make it work, I would not complain either. EDIT: I would not complain about my tax dollars going to the program.

So, does someone need to meet certain demographics in your eyes to be "humanity in dire situation" vs. a thug, a mooch, or a deadbeat? Seems this guy is already at 2 out of 3 for the latter...

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Old 02-28-2015, 06:00 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Voting against their own interest since before time...Murica. "Muh taxes", "Muh Jesus", "Muh land"...hope he gets Obamacare and gets healthy so he can yet again speak against it.
So voting for your self interest at the cost of everyone else is a better idea?
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Old 02-28-2015, 06:12 AM
 
Location: NC
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So voting for your self interest at the cost of everyone else is a better idea?
That comment is not really relevant here, it's exactly what he did, and we are seeing the results.. The point here is that this case demonstrates why having everyone covered IS in everyone's self interest. The ACA is far from perfect, we'd probably disagree on the reasons (I think single payer is the right solution, I don't know you, but might assume you have other ideas), but the underlying problem, or at least one of them, is that people who selfishly go uncovered and then depend on the charity of others to help them when their decision doesn't pan out, is not good.

This guy may or may not have qualified for a subsidy, but if he would have enrolled, paid what he could, and used his coverage to stay healthy, then:
1. possibly, he would not have had the heart attack, and could have saved us ALL a lot of money, or
B. Would have been covered, and there would have been a system (even if not perfect) in place to pay his bills, rather than him likely defaulting on his hospital bill, and depending on others to pay a small portion of it, which really adds up to nothing.

Granted, that the ACA is not the cure-all for healthcare in America. There are long-seated structural issues with our healthcare. But one of the first steps is to make SURE that all American's are covered with insurance. That everyone has access to proactive healthcare, and that nobody is faced with catastrophic economic consequences in the aftermath of a medical incident. I am baffled as to why that is even a debatable goal...
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Old 02-28-2015, 06:15 AM
Status: "Let's replace the puppet show with actual leadership." (set 3 hours ago)
 
Location: Suburban Dallas
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Former Sheriff Richard Mack is part of the "constitutional sheriff" movement and opposes Obamacare. He didn't sign up through the ACA website and has no insurance. He makes the absurd claim that "because they [he and wife] are self-employed, they have no medical insurance". In January 2015 he had a heart attack and last November his wife was hospitalized with serious medical issues. A GoFundMe account was launched and in 26 days has raised $17,033 for his medical bills.

Sheriff Richard Mack
GoFundMe - Sheriff’s Life on the Line
Uninsured Ex-Sheriff Who Fought O-care Struggles To Pay Medical Bills
You'd think his department would have offered benefits, even after personnel retirements. Did they not? And this brings back my point that someone along the way is going to die because of the existence of the (Un)ACA and all the crap it contains.
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