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Originally Posted by phetaroi
...frankly, you add little of substance to the discussion because all you do is try to pit liberal against conservative; that's in almost every single post you make.
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Boy, talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
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Originally Posted by MIKEETC
The reason you can't help me is because the defining characteristics of American culture vary and these characteristics have changed, are changing, and will continue to change.
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They will change only if we allow them to.
That's what it means to be a democracy and an independent, self-determining country.
"Change is inevitable" is only true if we continue to tolerate illegal immigration -- and massive legal immigration from the Third World.
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Originally Posted by MIKEETC
Home Depot posts signs in English and Spanish because in business the only language that matters is money. Looks like a just found one of the defining characteristics of American culture. [money]
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And how is money not the defining characteristic of every culture in the world?
Or do they all barter in order to eat?
That would be news to me!
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Originally Posted by Oldglory
No, the defining characteristics of American culture don't vary. There are minority cultures living among us but I am talking about mainstream America. If our cultures changes dramatically it will be via illegal immigration and that is neither lawful nor natural or allowing too many in legally from mostly one ethnic group. Diversity will encourage assimilation the latter produces colonization.
Something tells me that you aren't a part of mainstream American culture and that you detest what it is.
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Well said!
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Originally Posted by Oldglory
Well you can "think" what you want but we do have an identifying culture and language. The basics of our culture are still intact. Not saying that there hasn't been some subtle changes over the years aka the melting pot. Today, the melting pot is being discouraged in favor of a salad bowl instead. I blame it on the so-called progressives who encourage this or ethnocentrics that want American culture to reflect theirs instead.
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Again, well said!
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Originally Posted by phetaroi
...And all because Americans are too self-absorbed to learn anything much about the rest of the world.
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But other peoples around the world are SO interested in knowing everything about America.
Sure they are...
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Originally Posted by silverkris
Anyway, to puncture your illusions, today's immigrants acquire English at the same rate or faster as the mythical Europeans of yesteryear. And that includes Latinos.
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You have no way of knowing that.
But just throw it out there, anyway. Why not?
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Originally Posted by silverkris
And they are. And they're changing what it means to be American - a culture doesn't stay static, it evolves.
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American culture would evolve even if there were only white people here. We don't need foreigners and non-whites to make make it evolve.
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Sorry but you don't have a monopoly on what "American" is defined as, or you no longer do. Deal with it.
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Sorry, but not all of us are going to surrender to your reverse-colonialism and Kumbaya multiculturalism that will only result in Balkanization and eventual civil war.
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Originally Posted by Packard fan
Not really true. MOST Asians who get here at 12 years old or younger usually speak proper English by 18, even the ones born in Vietnam and so on. Way too many US born Hispanics speak poor English with worse grammar than me AND with a heavy accent by 18.
You just need to accept the fact that MOST "Asian" cultures seem to mesh real well with our Anglo Saxon 1 here in the US. Period. Another "non white" group who usually do real well in the US are Black people from Nigeria, Kenya and so on.
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Well said.
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Originally Posted by silverkris
I know you've lost the ESL argument with me when you try to "whitesplain" cultures to me, an Asian American.
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"Whitesplain"?
An Asian playing the victim in a country in which Asians thrive and even do better economically than whites.
Thanks for the "gratitude."
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That's funny, as an Asian American - back about 100 years ago, we were thought to be incompatible with so-called Anglo Saxon culture and only good to wash laundry and operate restaurants.
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Oh, you poor thing!
The red carpet wasn't rolled out for you, but it was for everyone else.
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You're just tying yourself in knots and using the tired old model minority myth to hate on Latinos.
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An Asian actually being "offended" by the fact that he/she has succeeded here, and who still wants to play the victim.
Nice job of having it both ways.
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Originally Posted by Oldglory
If one learns English but will never use it as their primary language of usage in this country or will only speak it when they have to what's the point?
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Well said.
I've had to deal with people who I know understand English but pretend they don't when they don't want us "dumb Americans" to think they understand us.
It's a game played by those who would take advantage of others.
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Originally Posted by silverkris
Yeah - and the minute they became "white," the Irish turned on the blacks.
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Your evidence for that?
The Irish typically became cops....and we know from "White Lives Don't Matter" how that works out when dealing with ghetto blacks.
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In California, however, there were plenty of real estate covenants that were racially restrictive that included Asians.
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Get over yourself.
Those covenants also excluded Jews.
What makes you think you're so special?
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Originally Posted by momonkey
How many of these immigrating Jews, Irish and Italians lived among us for years, attended our schools and collected welfare benefits before blowing up children with homemade bombs?
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The answer is "none."
Good point.
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