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Old Yesterday, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow View Post
Let's all stop paying income taxes. According to DC, there is no need for the federal agent who will be wanting to pay us a visit to do any investigating. We simply tell him that we did pay, and that should take care of everything, easy peasy.
Good idea. We can hand over someone else's returns and when the IRS questions us due to inconsistency, we'll just say, 'Nope, I am who I am say I am!' and that will be that.
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Old Yesterday, 08:16 PM
 
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Well you see, members of our armed forces volunteered for that life.
They may have volunteered, they are technically government property, not illegals. They did not cross the boarder illegally. You have people crying that the conditions the illegals are in are horrid, but look at our service members...there are many times they sleep on the ground (https://taskandpurpose.com/7-photos-...sleep-anywhere). Oh the stories I've been told.
Better yet, see for yourself. https://www.facebook.com/kim.d.hohn/...20438446419937
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Old Today, 12:01 AM
 
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How often do troops in combat get to shower? The USG periodically imposes much worse conditions on members of our armed forces, so spare us the bleeding-heart BS.
So you are OK with a US citizen being held in custody, with no right to talk to a lawyer, and in concentration camp standards, when that citizen did nothing illegal.


Why? (you won't answer the why, I already know that)
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Old Today, 12:03 AM
 
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Never happen. I have a US passport card in my wallet.
So you are comfortable with, "Give me your papers" then?
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Old Today, 12:04 AM
 
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If the conditions were as bad as he claims they were still better than most jails and prisons in this country.

Overcrowded, had to sleep on the floor, crappy blanket blah blah blah. Cry me a river.
He was a US citizen who was forced into the concentration camp.
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Old Today, 12:05 AM
 
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Don't worry about facts.

Libs will step over them every time.
The fact is that he is a US citizen. Fact, one that the CBP could easily have verified, but refused to.
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Old Today, 12:07 AM
 
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You keep repeating he was a US Citizen. When they detained him, they didn't know that.
Texas drivers license. SS card. Those would be your first clue.
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Old Today, 12:15 AM
 
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It is actually a pretty ugly violation. Remember that you are not under any obligation to answer BP questions. Simply decline to answer.

I have gone through checkpoints in S. AZ a half dozen times. I do not provide anything to the agent. Nor do I constructively answer any questions. If asked where I am going I would respond with why do you want to know. Once they went to secondary inspection but I declined to allow a search so all they could do was walk a drug dog around the car. A fresh hertz rental which I think they determined and knocked off the silliness.

Couple of times I even ended up in a friendly conversation with the agents. Mostly though they decide I am a sovereign citizen or something and wave me on.

And that is of course what the law requires. You do not have to answer any questions or provide any documents unless you are not a citizen and have legal immigration documents. An illegal alien has no requirement to answer any questions.
I went through one of those on I-10. I was surprised, as a Canadian citizen, that they were stopping people away from the border, but I found out later that US laws allows that.

Anyways, with my Canadian license plated vehicle, CBP agent asked if I was a US citizen. I answered, no. His response, "Your free to go".

I found that weird, as I would have expected him to ask for my passport at the very least. Regardless, I guess me being in my 60's, white, tall, speaking in perfect English, blond, blue eyes, and I can have an air of authority about me, may have influenced the exchange. But that is just my guess.
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Old Today, 03:03 AM
 
Location: In the desert
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It saddens me deeply that this kind of thing is ok with many people. It could happen to any of us. Is this going to possibly going to be our new normal? If a SS card and/or a DL isn't good enough, what would they have us carry on our person?
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Old Today, 05:37 AM
 
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Good idea. We can hand over someone else's returns and when the IRS questions us due to inconsistency, we'll just say, 'Nope, I am who I am say I am!' and that will be that.
It would only be equivalent if you were jailed without basic necessities while the investigated whether or not your tax returns were your own.
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