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Old Yesterday, 03:59 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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The “Bonus Army.” A sad day in history that is completely unknown to many.

Yes the Bonus Army. Very sad. All they wanted was what was promised to them and that they earned. More incidents include the Battle of Blair Mountain where a million rounds were fired and over 100 people killed because of a labor dispute over Unionization. The Army was sent in. September 1921 Alost 1000 people were arrested. April 20 1914. Ludlow CO. Rockefeller thugs supported by the CONG attacked and killed over 21 people with machine gun fire including women and children. Families of striking miners. They also set fire to the camp of 1200 people. Which they also did in DC with the Bonus demonstrators.


May 19 1920.Baldwin Felds detective agency, coal company thugs, opened fire on miners and their families in Matewan WV.Three months later with the conflict still raging the Army was sent in to pacify the area. All in all there have been 18 major labor disputes that federal troops have been sent in to intervene in blatant violation of the Constitution.


During the Westward push of "manifest destiny" DC rented the Army to the highest bidder for the purpose of running homesteaders off of desired land holdings for the railroads, mining and cattle mega barons. The US government is one of the biggest and dirtiest violators of peoples rights since we were a British colonial holding.


No matter what these wacko leftists think history doesn't lie to those who listen. If the feds think for a second they could get away with the stuff in the incidents I have listed rest assured they will try. And that's both Democrats and Republicans.


Why is it do you think that gozillionaires will spend billions of dollars to get elected to positions that only pay 6 figures a year? Oh yea...Because they "wish to be of service." Yea, of service to whoever graces them the most and helps cement their power. Which is the one thing they love more than money.


Yes, we citizens NEED "assault weapons." Which I prefer to call "service type weapons". Meaning they are a close equivilant to what the military uses. Or the plethora of alphabet agency thugs in federal employ. That is how I see it. I am NOT some radical right or left wing nut. I am just an average citizen. An Independent. I serve no master but me and mine. I hate Hitlerists and Stalinists equally. I am NOT a racist or a White supremacist or a wingnut socialist "progressive". The latter being just as willing to use violence to achieve their goals.


And if prodded I am willing and able to fight either or both ends to hold on to what I have.
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Old Yesterday, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...am-in-congress

Support for assault weapons ban picking up increasing steam:
If you really want meaningful gun control there needs to be an assault weapons ban, civilians have no need for these types of weapons. They are not the only issue, many other semi automatic handguns but military style guns don't belong in the hands of civilians.
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Old Yesterday, 04:34 PM
 
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If you really want meaningful gun control there needs to be an assault weapons ban, civilians have no need for these types of weapons. They are not the only issue, many other semi automatic handguns but military style guns don't belong in the hands of civilians.
Have you not been reading the posts upthread detailing the atrocities committed by the government against our own people? Do you honestly think nothing like that will ever happen again?
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Old Yesterday, 05:33 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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If you really want meaningful gun control there needs to be an assault weapons ban, civilians have no need for these types of weapons. They are not the only issue, many other semi automatic handguns but military style guns don't belong in the hands of civilians.

You go right ahead and keep thinking that and trusting the government and the forebearance of reptile criminal gangs. All the while that we don't need such weapons the cops sure think they do. And not semi auto only like our. The real deal just like the military.


And I will be the judge of what I need. Thanks for the offer but I can think for myself. It's all good.
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Old Yesterday, 05:35 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Have you not been reading the posts upthread detailing the atrocities committed by the government against our own people? Do you honestly think nothing like that will ever happen again?

I didn't even come close to listing them all. The government has a lengthy history. And like I said history doesn't lie to those who listen.
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Old Yesterday, 05:37 PM
 
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Have you not been reading the posts upthread detailing the atrocities committed by the government against our own people? Do you honestly think nothing like that will ever happen again?
A few anecdotes going back over a hundred years isn't meaningful to me. I don't see the government as a force that requires us to have these types of guns.
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Old Yesterday, 05:46 PM
 
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A few anecdotes going back over a hundred years isn't meaningful to me. I don't see the government as a force that requires us to have these types of guns.

OK. How bout considerably less than100 years. A leftist favorite to bring up, Kent State, Waco, Ruby Ridge the Philadelphia police firebombing and were it not for people with "these types of guns" rest assured the Bundy ranch would have been a massacre.


Carry on regardless.
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Old Yesterday, 06:25 PM
 
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If you really want meaningful gun control there needs to be an assault weapons ban, civilians have no need for these types of weapons. They are not the only issue, many other semi automatic handguns but military style guns don't belong in the hands of civilians.
It's not up to you or anyone else to decide what anyone needs for any lawful purpose or not. We are a Constitutional Republic, ruled by Constitutional law. Not a Democracy or mob rule where a simple or even an overwhelming majority gets to decide what others may need or not.

Our system of government was intentionally set up that way. To protect the Constitutional rights of all Americans from tyranny by a majority. You'd better be careful for what you wish for as one day it may be your ox that is being gored by a just a simple majority.

Why do I have to keep on posting this over and over again? It never seems to sink in amongst those who wish to enslave us to majority rule, such as yourself:

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Constitutional Republic:

A Constitutional Republic is a form of government where the head of state and other officials are elected as representatives of the people, representatives mandated to govern according to existing constitutional law. It is because of this mandate that the elected class in a Constitutional Republic is limited in their power over the citizenry. The United States of America was created as and intended to survive as a Constitutional Republic.

Our Constitutional Republic is separated into three separate but equal branches of government; the Executive, Legislative and Judicial, represented by the Presidency, Congress and the Courts. Because of this no branch has a rein on absolute power thus assuring that there will be checks and balances to the governmental system and protection for the rule of law.

Through the elected representation employed by our Constitutional Republic the influence of the majority is tempered by protections for individual rights as mandated by constitutional law. Our form of government is deliberate in its attempt to thwart majoritarianism, thereby protecting political dissent and individuals and minority groups from the "tyranny of the majority" by placing checks on the power of the majority of the population. The power of the majority of the people is checked by limiting that power to electing representatives who are required to legislate with limits of overarching constitutional law which a simple majority cannot modify.

"A pure unbridled democracy is a political system in which the majority enjoys absolute power by means of democratic elections. In an unvarnished democracy, unrestrained by a constitution, the majority can vote to impose tyranny on themselves and the minority opposition. They can vote to elect those who will infringe upon our inalienable God-given rights. Thomas Jefferson referred to this as elected despotism in Notes on the State of Virginia (also cited in Federalist 48 by Madison):"
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Old Yesterday, 06:42 PM
 
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If you really want meaningful gun control there needs to be an assault weapons ban, civilians have no need for these types of weapons. They are not the only issue, many other semi automatic handguns but military style guns don't belong in the hands of civilians.
I want therefore I need.

Not up to what can and can’t own.
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Old Yesterday, 09:43 PM
 
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A few anecdotes going back over a hundred years isn't meaningful to me. I don't see the government as a force that requires us to have these types of guns.
Thank God the Founding Fathers knew better, and had the foresight to create the second amendment.
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