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Old 08-14-2019, 09:07 AM
 
Location: california
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The hypocrisy of the left they are blind to demanding more rights than the right.
They don't want to earn respect, they demand it by force .
There is a point that is being stretched against the right, some day that will spark the end , and I hope I am 'not' here to see it.
There is a problem that when you give the criminal or terrorist what he wants he will demand more, and this is exactly what has been going on . ( most criminals are liberals.) it would be contradictory for a criminal to be conservative .
The criminal element in the UN and the government have been working hard to take our power from us freedom of speech and the right to bear arms were not to be infringed yet this is the goal .
When Obama was in office more guns were sold than in almost any other time in American history because of the division he was creating in the nation and the world . Being a Muslim this is his nature.
The world of Islam has been divided for centuries . the only way their know is rule by death. ( The Wind and the Lion)
Yet liberals embrace this thinking they will not have to endure this judgment of them. good luck with that, this is their Modus Operandi . Bother to read their history.
We currently have deep state operatives that are pleased to do the evil bidding of the left . and if they are untouchable. Who is going to defend you, NO BODY, not even the police ,FBI or CIA .
With only shredded constitutional rights you've got nothing to stand on except toilet paper. and your children will be their slaves , it is already happening. You gave them this power . Their teachers are preparing them.
When this economy dumps , and it will , who will be there to protect you ? really ?

Last edited by arleigh; 08-14-2019 at 09:17 AM..

 
Old 08-14-2019, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Out West
23,447 posts, read 17,311,664 times
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Originally Posted by NVplumber View Post
And not just Confederate soldiers and citizens who these grabbers will just label as traitors who had it coming. Union citizens on Union ground. Like NYC. Where the US government asked and allowed foreign flagged warships to fire artillery into the city while troops marched on and killed people en masse.


1932, where Hoover turned MacAurther loose on US citizens. Cavalry infantry and armor. The US government is not so mild and benevolent as that poster and many like him/her would like to or have us believe.


If they could get away with it there would be much more happening an these hand wringing "humanitarian" leftist are the worst off the lot. If they were in a position to do so we would all be forced at gun and bayonet point into their way of thinking. For our own and that of the nations good of course.
I'm surprised that people aren't seeing the writing on the wall. It's in our face everyday, but people have apparently not put the pieces together, and others deny that it's going on. Watching how the left operates for over 15 years, I've come to see patterns.

While some on the left do own weapons, and are for the 2nd Amendment, the majority of those who own firearms are Conservatives.

So - what do we do to paint Conservatives as domestic terrorists?

Sowell got impatient. He revealed what those in power are thinking, or have similar thinking, and once again, it's the frog and the pot of boiling water scenario. When the "take away their guns" speeches aren't working, you try another tactic:

First, you label the POTUS a racist, bigot, homophobe, Islamophobe, compare him to Hitler, etc.

Then, you label anyone who votes for him as "deplorable".

Then, you point out how many "guns" they have.

Then, you link the POTUS to white supremacists.

Then, you blame everything on white supremacy.

Then, you lump all of those who voted for the above mentioned POTUS as "white supremacists".

Then, you insist that all white supremacists are "domestic terrorists".

Now you've got your domestic terrorists that you're allowed to destroy.

Then, you work, cheat, lie, steal, whatever "by any means necessary" your way back into power.

Then, you utter one phrase, and watch the country rip apart.

When the dust settles, you've got a new slave class who are too stupid to realize that they are a slave class - at least at first. When they do, there's nothing that they can do, because they have nothing to fight with, nothing to defend themselves with, and have doomed themselves.

People carry on and on about Hitler, but everyone seems to forget that what Stalin did to Crimea/Ukrainian people was far, far worse than anything Hitler did.

Go back to what Sowell said, (previously posted in another post on this thread) - that he would nuke those who didn't comply with the gun buyback program:

The Holodomor happened because Stalin decided to teach Ukraine’s farmers "a lesson" about not going along with collectivization. You know, give up your own land to the government, and work on those farms now controlled by government - "for the common good". Not only did they take the land from the people, they created a famine to prevent people from fighting back. Approximately 28,000 people a day were dying during that time, from starvation.

You can't fight back if you have no weapons.

You can't fight back if you're starving to death.

No one in this country is going to agree with any politician who says to starve them out. But they will agree with any politician who attempts to disarm. The left keeps bleating on about the military. The ones who bleat the loudest are the ones who don't have a clue how the military even works, and/or they never served a day in their life. Interestingly enough, they're also the ones who carry on and on about a "police state" and "going around the world starting wars" but seem to have no issue whatsoever with that happening here as long as it's against "the other side".

And then we have Lenin. The one so glorified by the left that there's a statue of him in Seattle. In Ballard. Right there, out in the open, for all to see. And the left tried to pretend that they weren't for Communism - for years they denied this. Meanwhile - statue of Lenin. Socialism leads to Communism despite how many claim that it doesn't.

Lenin and Stalin.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/100-yea...ead-1510011810

Quote:
100 Years of Communism—and 100 Million Dead

In a 1920 speech to the Komsomol, Lenin said that communists subordinate morality to the class struggle. Good was anything that destroyed “the old exploiting society” and helped to build a “new communist society.”

This approach separated guilt from responsibility. Martyn Latsis, an official of the Cheka, Lenin’s secret police, in a 1918 instruction to interrogators, wrote: “We are not waging war against individuals. We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class. . . . Do not look for evidence that the accused acted in word or deed against Soviet power. The first question should be to what class does he belong. . . . It is this that should determine his fate.”
Sounds all too familiar.

The problem in this country is selling the people on the idea that we need to exterminate some. But they've been working on it for a few decades. And where we are now is what I started out with:

Label the POTUS as X.
Label the voters of the POTUS as X.
Blame everything on X.
Call X "domestic terrorism".
Call on the populace to agree to disarm them using arguments like "you don't NEED this..."
Pay people to go on social media and spread the propaganda.
Get the news to toe the line and spread your propaganda.
Win back power, by any means necessary.
Disarm the people.
Now you can begin exterminating.
 
Old 08-14-2019, 10:52 AM
 
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez View Post
In recent years, the US government has been involved in helping other countries torture and kill their own citizens with no due process.

We continue to support fairly nefarious "leaders" as well.

When Germany exterminated millions, they weren't some Stone age gang of barbarians. They were on the edge of modern rocketry and splitting the atom. They had a society ripe with philosophers and artists. The had great universities and theorists. I'd bet most Germans could have never imagined the horrors their country was capable until they were known.
We overthrew the elected governments in Guatemala and Honduras which led to the slaughter of 180,000 native Mayans.
 
Old 08-14-2019, 11:11 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
14,530 posts, read 11,904,679 times
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Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow View Post
I'm surprised that people aren't seeing the writing on the wall. It's in our face everyday, but people have apparently not put the pieces together, and others deny that it's going on. Watching how the left operates for over 15 years, I've come to see patterns.

While some on the left do own weapons, and are for the 2nd Amendment, the majority of those who own firearms are Conservatives.

So - what do we do to paint Conservatives as domestic terrorists?

Sowell got impatient. He revealed what those in power are thinking, or have similar thinking, and once again, it's the frog and the pot of boiling water scenario. When the "take away their guns" speeches aren't working, you try another tactic:

First, you label the POTUS a racist, bigot, homophobe, Islamophobe, compare him to Hitler, etc.

Then, you label anyone who votes for him as "deplorable".

Then, you point out how many "guns" they have.

Then, you link the POTUS to white supremacists.

Then, you blame everything on white supremacy.

Then, you lump all of those who voted for the above mentioned POTUS as "white supremacists".

Then, you insist that all white supremacists are "domestic terrorists".

Now you've got your domestic terrorists that you're allowed to destroy.

Then, you work, cheat, lie, steal, whatever "by any means necessary" your way back into power.

Then, you utter one phrase, and watch the country rip apart.

When the dust settles, you've got a new slave class who are too stupid to realize that they are a slave class - at least at first. When they do, there's nothing that they can do, because they have nothing to fight with, nothing to defend themselves with, and have doomed themselves.

People carry on and on about Hitler, but everyone seems to forget that what Stalin did to Crimea/Ukrainian people was far, far worse than anything Hitler did.

Go back to what Sowell said, (previously posted in another post on this thread) - that he would nuke those who didn't comply with the gun buyback program:

The Holodomor happened because Stalin decided to teach Ukraine’s farmers "a lesson" about not going along with collectivization. You know, give up your own land to the government, and work on those farms now controlled by government - "for the common good". Not only did they take the land from the people, they created a famine to prevent people from fighting back. Approximately 28,000 people a day were dying during that time, from starvation.

You can't fight back if you have no weapons.

You can't fight back if you're starving to death.

No one in this country is going to agree with any politician who says to starve them out. But they will agree with any politician who attempts to disarm. The left keeps bleating on about the military. The ones who bleat the loudest are the ones who don't have a clue how the military even works, and/or they never served a day in their life. Interestingly enough, they're also the ones who carry on and on about a "police state" and "going around the world starting wars" but seem to have no issue whatsoever with that happening here as long as it's against "the other side".

And then we have Lenin. The one so glorified by the left that there's a statue of him in Seattle. In Ballard. Right there, out in the open, for all to see. And the left tried to pretend that they weren't for Communism - for years they denied this. Meanwhile - statue of Lenin. Socialism leads to Communism despite how many claim that it doesn't.

Lenin and Stalin.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/100-yea...ead-1510011810



Sounds all too familiar.

The problem in this country is selling the people on the idea that we need to exterminate some. But they've been working on it for a few decades. And where we are now is what I started out with:

Label the POTUS as X.
Label the voters of the POTUS as X.
Blame everything on X.
Call X "domestic terrorism".
Call on the populace to agree to disarm them using arguments like "you don't NEED this..."
Pay people to go on social media and spread the propaganda.
Get the news to toe the line and spread your propaganda.
Win back power, by any means necessary.
Disarm the people.
Now you can begin exterminating.

Truly. I've brought up the same points you make a lot here myself lately. The Stalinist view as opposed to Hitler being a big one. I tossed Mao in there to. Leftist heroes. Hitler didn't even come close to Stalin and when you put Mao in the mix the number of people they killed makes Hitler look tame.


The demonizing of the opposition and getting people on board with eliminating that opposition is classic leftist strategy. As is the disarming of the citizenry. It's not hard to see how the left has demonized ALL firearms owners as potential right wing terrorists as they advocate for forcible disarmament.


Mandatory registration and licensing is part of that and as you say the writing is on the wall. The violence that is likely to break out after the 2020 elections scares me. If Trump wins again, which I believe he is more than likely to do, the left will go bonkers. If the left wins they will still go bonkers just with government power behind them.


Don't know about anyone else but I'm spooked. I'm doing all I can to stock up on certain things. The upcoming election makes me more nervous than anything ever has before. I wasn't this spooked after 9/11. Not even close. However the elections go I'm thinking there will be a fight coming. Not an actual civil war really but widespread violent confrontation between factions.


The left will refuse to recognize a Trump reelection and things will blow up, and if they win they will go straight to pacification and squashing of all who oppose them. They will never again relinquish power. Can you say Chairman Xi? Kim Jong Un? Joseph Stalin anyone?
 
Old 08-14-2019, 11:41 AM
 
38,479 posts, read 16,704,540 times
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow View Post
I'm surprised that people aren't seeing the writing on the wall. It's in our face everyday, but people have apparently not put the pieces together, and others deny that it's going on. Watching how the left operates for over 15 years, I've come to see patterns.

While some on the left do own weapons, and are for the 2nd Amendment, the majority of those who own firearms are Conservatives.

So - what do we do to paint Conservatives as domestic terrorists?

Sowell got impatient. He revealed what those in power are thinking, or have similar thinking, and once again, it's the frog and the pot of boiling water scenario. When the "take away their guns" speeches aren't working, you try another tactic:

First, you label the POTUS a racist, bigot, homophobe, Islamophobe, compare him to Hitler, etc.

Then, you label anyone who votes for him as "deplorable".

Then, you point out how many "guns" they have.

Then, you link the POTUS to white supremacists.

Then, you blame everything on white supremacy.

Then, you lump all of those who voted for the above mentioned POTUS as "white supremacists".

Then, you insist that all white supremacists are "domestic terrorists".

Now you've got your domestic terrorists that you're allowed to destroy.

Then, you work, cheat, lie, steal, whatever "by any means necessary" your way back into power.

Then, you utter one phrase, and watch the country rip apart.

When the dust settles, you've got a new slave class who are too stupid to realize that they are a slave class - at least at first. When they do, there's nothing that they can do, because they have nothing to fight with, nothing to defend themselves with, and have doomed themselves.

People carry on and on about Hitler, but everyone seems to forget that what Stalin did to Crimea/Ukrainian people was far, far worse than anything Hitler did.

Go back to what Sowell said, (previously posted in another post on this thread) - that he would nuke those who didn't comply with the gun buyback program:

The Holodomor happened because Stalin decided to teach Ukraine’s farmers "a lesson" about not going along with collectivization. You know, give up your own land to the government, and work on those farms now controlled by government - "for the common good". Not only did they take the land from the people, they created a famine to prevent people from fighting back. Approximately 28,000 people a day were dying during that time, from starvation.

You can't fight back if you have no weapons.

You can't fight back if you're starving to death.

No one in this country is going to agree with any politician who says to starve them out. But they will agree with any politician who attempts to disarm. The left keeps bleating on about the military. The ones who bleat the loudest are the ones who don't have a clue how the military even works, and/or they never served a day in their life. Interestingly enough, they're also the ones who carry on and on about a "police state" and "going around the world starting wars" but seem to have no issue whatsoever with that happening here as long as it's against "the other side".

And then we have Lenin. The one so glorified by the left that there's a statue of him in Seattle. In Ballard. Right there, out in the open, for all to see. And the left tried to pretend that they weren't for Communism - for years they denied this. Meanwhile - statue of Lenin. Socialism leads to Communism despite how many claim that it doesn't.

Lenin and Stalin.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/100-yea...ead-1510011810



Sounds all too familiar.

The problem in this country is selling the people on the idea that we need to exterminate some. But they've been working on it for a few decades. And where we are now is what I started out with:

Label the POTUS as X.
Label the voters of the POTUS as X.
Blame everything on X.
Call X "domestic terrorism".
Call on the populace to agree to disarm them using arguments like "you don't NEED this..."
Pay people to go on social media and spread the propaganda.
Get the news to toe the line and spread your propaganda.
Win back power, by any means necessary.
Disarm the people.
Now you can begin exterminating.
"The problem in this country is selling the people on the idea that we need to exterminate some."


And isn't it ironic how the woman, a DEM, who started Planned Parenthood did so to "exterminate" blacks. She held rallies FOR the KKK to push their ideology.
 
Old 08-14-2019, 11:48 AM
Status: "unless it's got that "it" factor." (set 3 days ago)
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
4,469 posts, read 812,912 times
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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...am-in-congress

Support for assault weapons ban picking up increasing steam:

Quote:
Hoyer said Democrats are eyeing a host of potential possibilities. He rattled off several: an assault weapons ban, new restrictions on high-capacity magazines, banning those on the FBI's terrorist watch list from buying guns and “red flag” legislation....
 
Old 08-14-2019, 12:00 PM
 
3,822 posts, read 1,659,209 times
Reputation: 2585
Quote:
Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow View Post
I'm surprised that people aren't seeing the writing on the wall. It's in our face everyday, but people have apparently not put the pieces together, and others deny that it's going on. Watching how the left operates for over 15 years, I've come to see patterns.

While some on the left do own weapons, and are for the 2nd Amendment, the majority of those who own firearms are Conservatives.

So - what do we do to paint Conservatives as domestic terrorists?

Sowell got impatient. He revealed what those in power are thinking, or have similar thinking, and once again, it's the frog and the pot of boiling water scenario. When the "take away their guns" speeches aren't working, you try another tactic:

First, you label the POTUS a racist, bigot, homophobe, Islamophobe, compare him to Hitler, etc.

Then, you label anyone who votes for him as "deplorable".

Then, you point out how many "guns" they have.

Then, you link the POTUS to white supremacists.

Then, you blame everything on white supremacy.

Then, you lump all of those who voted for the above mentioned POTUS as "white supremacists".

Then, you insist that all white supremacists are "domestic terrorists".

Now you've got your domestic terrorists that you're allowed to destroy.

Then, you work, cheat, lie, steal, whatever "by any means necessary" your way back into power.

Then, you utter one phrase, and watch the country rip apart.

When the dust settles, you've got a new slave class who are too stupid to realize that they are a slave class - at least at first. When they do, there's nothing that they can do, because they have nothing to fight with, nothing to defend themselves with, and have doomed themselves.

People carry on and on about Hitler, but everyone seems to forget that what Stalin did to Crimea/Ukrainian people was far, far worse than anything Hitler did.

Go back to what Sowell said, (previously posted in another post on this thread) - that he would nuke those who didn't comply with the gun buyback program:

The Holodomor happened because Stalin decided to teach Ukraine’s farmers "a lesson" about not going along with collectivization. You know, give up your own land to the government, and work on those farms now controlled by government - "for the common good". Not only did they take the land from the people, they created a famine to prevent people from fighting back. Approximately 28,000 people a day were dying during that time, from starvation.

You can't fight back if you have no weapons.

You can't fight back if you're starving to death.

No one in this country is going to agree with any politician who says to starve them out. But they will agree with any politician who attempts to disarm. The left keeps bleating on about the military. The ones who bleat the loudest are the ones who don't have a clue how the military even works, and/or they never served a day in their life. Interestingly enough, they're also the ones who carry on and on about a "police state" and "going around the world starting wars" but seem to have no issue whatsoever with that happening here as long as it's against "the other side".

And then we have Lenin. The one so glorified by the left that there's a statue of him in Seattle. In Ballard. Right there, out in the open, for all to see. And the left tried to pretend that they weren't for Communism - for years they denied this. Meanwhile - statue of Lenin. Socialism leads to Communism despite how many claim that it doesn't.

Lenin and Stalin.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/100-yea...ead-1510011810



Sounds all too familiar.

The problem in this country is selling the people on the idea that we need to exterminate some. But they've been working on it for a few decades. And where we are now is what I started out with:

Label the POTUS as X.
Label the voters of the POTUS as X.
Blame everything on X.
Call X "domestic terrorism".
Call on the populace to agree to disarm them using arguments like "you don't NEED this..."
Pay people to go on social media and spread the propaganda.
Get the news to toe the line and spread your propaganda.
Win back power, by any means necessary.
Disarm the people.
Now you can begin exterminating.
The poor white men dont even know that they are supporting the very people who want them gone.

Do you really think poor Travyons and Fernandezes have a major say in the government policies and shape up everything against the Conservatives?
 
Old 08-14-2019, 12:02 PM
 
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Originally Posted by travis t View Post
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...am-in-congress

Support for assault weapons ban picking up increasing steam:
All those restrictions mean nothing. Just feel good rhetoric that rings hollow and is meaningless. It was tried before. How did that work out?
 
Old 08-14-2019, 02:28 PM
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NVplumber View Post
And not just Confederate soldiers and citizens who these grabbers will just label as traitors who had it coming. Union citizens on Union ground. Like NYC. Where the US government asked and allowed foreign flagged warships to fire artillery into the city while troops marched on and killed people en masse.


1932, where Hoover turned MacAurther loose on US citizens. Cavalry infantry and armor. The US government is not so mild and benevolent as that poster and many like him/her would like to or have us believe.


If they could get away with it there would be much more happening an these hand wringing "humanitarian" leftist are the worst off the lot. If they were in a position to do so we would all be forced at gun and bayonet point into their way of thinking. For our own and that of the nations good of course.
The “Bonus Army.” A sad day in history that is completely unknown to many.
 
Old 08-14-2019, 03:37 PM
 
Location: San Diego
36,475 posts, read 33,006,769 times
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Quote:
Originally Posted by travis t View Post
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...am-in-congress

Support for assault weapons ban picking up increasing steam:
same article but not cherry picked


A ban on military-style weapons won’t become law anytime soon even if the Democratic-held House passes legislation.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), a staunch Second Amendment advocate, has no intention of bringing the legislation to the floor, and President Trump has said there’s “no political appetite” for such a ban; both men are allies of the National Rifle Association, which is vehemently opposed to any ban or moratorium.
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