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They love their money, and spend hard on 700 thousand dollar tractors and other fancy equipment, and take advantage of cheap migrant labor.
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Originally Posted by mysticaltyger
Both parties support various forms of socialism. That's why we're headed downhill.
Liberals have a point about corporate welfare. The problem is, they use one type of government bloat as an excuse to create more forms of government bloat--ones they find more palatable. This is how the dynamic of ever larger, ever more totalitarian government works.
To be fair, liberals see problems where real people are seriously hurting, and try to come up with fair ways to mitigate that suffering and help them out of their predicaments.
So-called 'conservative' politicians tend to focus on making sure business people who send them checks keep sending those donations.
The days of 'forty acres and a mule' have been long gone. Larger farmers are essentially running agri-businesses, and they (like most sophisticated businesspersons) have little to no concern about the sufferings of ordinary people they are not related to, they want to keep their labor costs down. If they can also take financial advantage of some programs in the Farm Bill, bonus! They don't see the contradiction.
Not all farmers are so big and indifferent, but too many are. They are the rural equivalent of other types of businesses in the urban areas, often indifferent to the plight of ordinary folks around them and focused exclusively on keeping costs down (all costs, including labor) and getting as many freebies and tax breaks from the government as possible. They send money to Republican political campaigns and they expect results.
Yep, drought, flooding,fires, hail storms, insect invasions and futures. Farmers have zero control of any of that and they need incentive to switch from what they are used to planting.
Federal Government underwrites multi- peril crop insurance and subsidizes ( socializes) premiums.
Not able to "take the hit"? If current farmers don't own the land they are farming, they are in bad financial shape. If so, the banks won't lend them money for seed and fertilizer in the spring .
Farmers lose money quite often. Farming is a very expensive operation that requires huge expenditures for machinery, seed, chemicals, and land leases (for ground they don't own).
The US government (thankfully not you) has determined that it is important to national security and civil stability to maintain a constant food supply. You can't just turn the spigot off and on when you want.
I have a very small farm in Iowa (500 acres). Most small farmers farm around 3,000 acres, while large farmers can farm up to 100,000.
I suppose you like to eat, don't you? If you and the other liberals can go without eating for a few months, let farms fail. Otherwise, if eating is important to you, such a practice may not be wise. Keep in mind that the food stamp and ag bills are closely tied. Do you want foodstamps to end?
The food I buy at the grocery store most likely is imported. Very little comes from American farmers, unless one goes to the farmers market or a local produce stand.
IIRC, millions of that money paid to farmer's the first time they were the victims of Trump's tariff went to Brazilian meat packers.
To the OP - dairy and soy bean farmers in Minnesota and other parts of the midwest are absolutely getting destroyed right now, with many reporting huge losses and facing bankruptcy.
The food I buy at the grocery store most likely is imported. Very little comes from American farmers, unless one goes to the farmers market or a local produce stand.
IIRC, millions of that money paid to farmer's the first time they were the victims of Trump's tariff went to Brazilian meat packers.
Why are American farmers so selfish?
To be fair, liberals see problems where real people are seriously hurting, and try to come up with fair ways to mitigate that suffering and help them out of their predicaments.
So-called 'conservative' politicians tend to focus on making sure business people who send them checks keep sending those donations.
The days of 'forty acres and a mule' have been long gone. Larger farmers are essentially running agri-businesses, and they (like most sophisticated businesspersons) have little to no concern about the sufferings of ordinary people they are not related to, they want to keep their labor costs down. If they can also take financial advantage of some programs in the Farm Bill, bonus! They don't see the contradiction.
Not all farmers are so big and indifferent, but too many are. They are the rural equivalent of other types of businesses in the urban areas, often indifferent to the plight of ordinary folks around them and focused exclusively on keeping costs down (all costs, including labor) and getting as many freebies and tax breaks from the government as possible. They send money to Republican political campaigns and they expect results.
Cool story bro.
The average farmer does not send money to political campaigns.
The average farmer does not send money to political campaigns.
The average farmer is doing fine. Their neighbors in rural communities are not.
Farming (which is a business) are to rural community as Financial executives are to urban communities.
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Your cell phone is not vital to national security. Your food and water source is.
