I'm sick of people who say the "GOP must shed its 'far right base'. (enemy, racism)

[Chatteress]

Originally Posted by HubbleRules

My 'bigotted' beliefs??? You have got to be kidding...

Lady - from where I sit - you are far more bigotted than I ever could be... You are a religious bigot... those who do not subscribe to your religious beliefs are to be shunned...

Don't lecture me on bigotry - not until you take yourself down from that Christian pedastal that you put yourself upon.

Can you find ONE post of mine that stated that those who do not subscribe to Christianity should be shunned? This stereotyping comment of yours just shows you for the anti-Christian bigot that you are.

[HubbleRules]

Originally Posted by msconnie73

Can you find ONE post of mine that stated that those who do not subscribe to Christianity should be shunned? This stereotyping comment of yours just shows you for the anti-Christian bigot that you are.

Lady - I AM a Christian...

I've had my belly-full of born-again Christians, especially the Southern Baptists... and YES - they do shun people that do not think as they do - all the time..

Let me research your posts - it will take a while..... but I'll get back to you...

And again, I think you are far far far more bigotted than I am - you are a religious bigot that only respects people if they think like you do.

And one more thing - you have called me a bigot in several posts - that is the way shunning works in religious communities. Some self-righteous type (like YOU) starts bad mouthing someone - calling them a bigot, a tramp, an evil person - and then before you know it - the other sheep of that community fall straight in line and decide to have nothing to do with the person... So maybe I can't prove that you shun others - just as you can't prove that I'm a bigot - but I can surely suspect it is true.

[Chatteress]

Originally Posted by HubbleRules

Lady - I AM a Christian...

I've had my belly-full of born-again Christians, especially the Southern Baptists... and YES - they do shun people that do not think as they do - all the time..

Let me research your posts - it will take a while..... but I'll get back to you...

And again, I think you are far far far more bigotted than I am - you are a religious bigot that only respects people if they think like you do.

I have great respect for those who can think for themselves unlike those who blindly place a bigot label on Christian conservatives like you are doing. Not everyone in my circle is a Christian or conservative so your comment about me shunning or not respecting those who think differently from me is totally incorrect. Although I have no way of showing you my repping history, I've doled out rep points to many liberal posters on here and have received my fair share of rep points from many liberals on here.

[Chatteress]

Originally Posted by HubbleRules

Lady - I AM a Christian...

I've had my belly-full of born-again Christians, especially the Southern Baptists... and YES - they do shun people that do not think as they do - all the time..

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By the way, if you are not a born-again Christian ... Then what type of Christian are you? Just curious ...

[HubbleRules]

Originally Posted by msconnie73

By the way, if you are not a born-again Christian ... Then what type of Christian are you? Just curious ...

That is none of your business.

[Chatteress]

Originally Posted by HubbleRules

That is none of your business.

Ok ... I can live with that as you have the right to not share. I just assumed that all Christians, regardless of denomination or political affiliation, were born again as that is what Christianity is all about.

[Shizzles]

I agree, except on a few points:

Originally Posted by Eeeee22895

First of all, there is no "far right". This is just a term invented by liberals to disparage ALL religious conservatives. And by the way, 60 percent of Americans according to Battleground poll describe themselves as "conservative or somewhat conservative". 76.5% of Americans describe themselves as "Christian." This is not the GOP; this is the whole country
The Battleground Poll: 60% of Americans Describe Themselves As Conservative | Say Anything: North Dakota's Most Popular Political Blog (http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/the_battleground_poll_60_of_americans_describe_the mselves_as_conservative/ - broken link)
Religious identification in the U.S.

"Conservative" can mean alot of things. So can "Christian". Bush didn't get a 30% approval rating for nothing.

So the idea that just a tiny loud minority of Christian conservative crazies are hijacking the GOP and causing them to lose elections is ludicrous, bigoted, and designed to create a false impression. The vast majority of us ARE Christian conservatives. The reality is, it's the liberals and moderates and those who follow their advice who are losing elections for the GOP.

Really? How did Tarencdo do in the primaries. How about Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson. The GOP has no one to blame but themselves. Ron Paul was everything any genuine conservative could have asked for, but you pooped on him too.

We need to be more compassionate to the poor, and to do that we need more social spending.

There is a difference between going socialist and telling the poor to drop dead. I think Jesus would be appalled at what passes for "Christain Doctrine" these days.

kind of thinking got us John McCain. He followed that advice to a tee. He worked very hard to get along with Democrats, scorned traditional conservative values, hugged the liberals, wooed the press, and promptly caused us to get our asses beat.

46% is not as crushing as everyone makes it. Obama had everything going his way and still didn't top Clinton's 1992 trashing of Bush 1.

The hardliners are right. We stick to our core conservative principles; staunchly pro-life, anti-illegal immigration, tax cuts, spending cuts, pro capitalist, anti-greenpeace whackjob environmental restrictions, we will start to win elections again.

Some credability would be nice too. As far as illegal immigration, I agree, but frankly, it's quickly becoming a banner the George Wallace crowd hides under.

And for godsake, let's stop sabotaging ourselves by getting rid of our good conservatives because the liberals create a fuss. Tom Delay, Trent Lott et. al. You never see Democrats resign no matter how egregious their behavior is. Hell, William Jefferson can stash $90,000 in a freezer, Clinton's stooge can stuff official documents in his pants, and Barney Frank can run a prostitution ring in his basement. Never any calls for resignation. 'But you let Mark Foley send an email to a kid...no action, just an email...and we get him to resign. We eat our own. We allow George Allen to get hammered by the Washington Post for uttering some nebulous esoteric nonsense word, we allow him to be somehow miraculously cast as a racist for that, and we allow him to get beat without having raised a huge uproar. It's time to STOP listening to the damn leftwing media and the so-called moderates (who are really liberals) for advice on what we should do.

/\ No one is going to vote for a party that espouses "Family Values" and doesn't follow through. As far as Lott and Allen goes, if that type of thinking is what you want to see make a comeback, then you're going to have a rough go of it. The Civil Rights movement already happened, and the racists lost. Get over it.

Be conservative. Shout it from the rooftops. Give people confidence. Do what we KNOW is right, and what has been PROVEN to work. Why on earth have we abandoned the proven formula for success. Bold unapologetic conservatism.

/\ Bush had 6 years of total republican domination, something even Regan didn't have. He blew it. Simply screaming "Obama is a Muslim!" Is not a stragdey(sp)....

[SilverOne]

Still 76% of the country feels that they are christian, and if they start voting there faith, Democrat's are in for a rude attitude adjustment. If the US survives Obama.

[Hoarfrost]

Originally Posted by yikesamillion

The so-called religious right has been pushed into a corner by the left-wing circus that is running Washington D.C. and the national media.

In reality today's core values of the so-called religious right were once mainstream America. It used to be common sense and proper manners to not use drugs recreationally, to engage in sexuality after you took your wedding vows, to righfully shun abnormal lifestyles such as homosexuality, to not regard the unborn as an accident worthy of abortion, to take responsibility for your own actions without playing the blame game, to be able to afford things before you bought them, to be proud of being an American citizen, to be a legal immigrant that speaks proper English, to be willing to fight for your country, to not fear admitting your faith in God.

Those are beliefs of the so-called religious right, and there is not a single thing wrong with any of them. Society along the way has lost its morality, and we are dearly paying the price for it. The so-called religious right represents mainstream, common-sense family, moral values. To us the pro-homosexuality, pro-amnesty, abortion-on-demand, non-religious, socialist liberal minds of today are the radicals; and that is what the Democrats have become with their far-left agenda.

You don't want me to get into all the other not so palatable beliefs that also used to be common sense a long time ago...

You don't want me to.

[Hoarfrost]

Originally Posted by SilverOne

Still 76% of the country feels that they are christian, and if they start voting there faith, Democrat's are in for a rude attitude adjustment. If the US survives Obama.

Most people are Christian, but a much smaller percentage actually follow it to the letter. This is typical of most countries once wealth, standard of living, and education start to become superior.