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Old 10-14-2009, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Hey, he makes a good living taking the money of stupid, scared and ignorant people so why not. There's a sucker born every minute.

Ken
His scaremongering saved me a LOT of money last year!
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:05 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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His scaremongering saved me a LOT of money last year!
And had I listened to such scare mongering over the last 8 months my 401K would STILL be down. Instead - because I put my 401K into a "stable" (ie "safe") fund part way through the collapse late last year (preventing some loss) - then jumped back into the market 2 days after the absolute bottom and have ridden it up since then, not only have I recovered all that I lost from late 2007 until late 2008, my 401K is now at an all-time high.

Again, had I listened to such "doom and gloom" that would not be the case - so NOT listening to such "doom and gloom" MADE me a lot of money.



Ken
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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And had I listened to such scare mongering over the last 8 months my 401K would STILL be down. Instead - because I put my 401K into a "stable" (ie "safe") fund part way through the collapse late last year (preventing some loss) - then jumped back into the market 2 days after the absolute bottom and have ridden it up since then, not only have I recovered all that I lost from late 2007 until late 2008, my 401K is now at an all-time high.

Again, had I listened to such "doom and gloom" that would not be the case - so NOT listening to such "doom and gloom" MADE me a lot of money.



Ken
Ah, but since I listened to Schiff in addition to Celente, I moved stuff into commodities and the Aussie dollar late in 2008. While I don't have a lot, the % change was something like 150%. My GDX was up 200%.
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:21 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Ah, but since I listened to Schiff in addition to Celente, I moved stuff into commodities and the Aussie dollar late in 2008. While I don't have a lot, the % change was something like 150%. My GDX was up 200%.
That's all well and good, but 401K's do not typically give you those kinds of options - and MOST Americans have their investments in such funds.

Ken
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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That's all well and good, but 401K's do not typically give you those kinds of options - and MOST Americans have their investments in such funds.

Ken
Sorry to hear that. Probably would be better to have an IRA instead of falling for the 6% match sales pitch.
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:33 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Sorry to hear that. Probably would be better to have an IRA instead of falling for the 6% match sales pitch.
I'm not complaining. I've done VERY WELL - especially over the last 7 months or so.



But again, for most Anericans their "wealth" is in 401K's.

Ken
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Old 10-14-2009, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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And had I listened to such scare mongering over the last 8 months my 401K would STILL be down. Instead - because I put my 401K into a "stable" (ie "safe") fund part way through the collapse late last year (preventing some loss) - then jumped back into the market 2 days after the absolute bottom and have ridden it up since then, not only have I recovered all that I lost from late 2007 until late 2008, my 401K is now at an all-time high.

Again, had I listened to such "doom and gloom" that would not be the case - so NOT listening to such "doom and gloom" MADE me a lot of money.



Ken
Good on you, then, but this isn't just about money. If the grid goes down what good will money do you? Seems to me that if Australia is such a good place to park one's money it might be an even better place to park one's ***** when the bottom really drops out. For those who can, rather than sitting around talking smug it would be prudent to make sure your passport is current. When I see leaves rustling on a hot summer afternoon I pack an umbrella. I don't always need it but I used to hear growing up, "better to say, 'here it is!' than 'where is it?!'.

H
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Old 10-14-2009, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Whittier
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This is probably some viral marketing for the movie 2012.
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Old 10-14-2009, 12:33 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Good on you, then, but this isn't just about money. If the grid goes down what good will money do you? Seems to me that if Australia is such a good place to park one's money it might be an even better place to park one's ***** when the bottom really drops out. For those who can, rather than sitting around talking smug it would be prudent to make sure your passport is current. When I see leaves rustling on a hot summer afternoon I pack an umbrella. I don't always need it but I used to hear growing up, "better to say, 'here it is!' than 'where is it?!'.

H
The grid isn't about to go down - that's more silly "the sky is falling" talk - nothing more than the wet dream of bunch psudo-survivalists. It's not a matter of "being prepared" for the worst - it's a matter of missing out on REAL opportunities because you so focused on some silly far-out scenario that's simply NOT going to happen.



Ken
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Old 10-14-2009, 01:25 PM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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The grid isn't about to go down - that's more silly "the sky is falling" talk - nothing more than the wet dream of bunch psudo-survivalists. It's not a matter of "being prepared" for the worst - it's a matter of missing out on REAL opportunities because you so focused on some silly far-out scenario that's simply NOT going to happen.



Ken

An interesting thought as I read this post. While I'd agree that "the grid going down" is about as likely as the moon colliding with earth tomorrow morning, the fact is it could happen(It has before, eh....). The bottom falling completly out of the U.S. economy could happen, there are any number of absolute disasters that could happen....for those disasters that one is prepared for, that does happen, the person that is prepared, will survive, or at least have had a chance.

For many "disasters" that occur, if you simply have money, that is preparation enough. But the type of "disaster" being discussed here, all the money at your disposal wont do you a bit of good.

As for your very last sentence....I wonder if the folks that made the decision on how many lifeboats to put aboard the Titanic, had a similar mindset as yours?........Everything is a "silly and far out scenario", until it happens.

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