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Old 01-23-2010, 06:22 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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What??? Dude, read some history books.Your "god" was never in the Pledge of Allegiance, nor on our money, many of the founding father's were agnostic if not atheists.
Sorry, "skyegirl", it is you that needs to read some history. Most of our founders were Christians. Agnostic? Prove it. Which ones?

You are believing a lie.

Who taught you American History?

It was Christians who founded this nation. They came here to escape religious persecution. The Pilgrims were Christian. Can you name one, that wasn't a Christian? Probably not.

Go back and study American History. They don't teach it in High School anymore. So you will have to work. Is that more than you are willing to do?
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Old 01-23-2010, 06:26 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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The Pledge of Allegiance was written by an American Socialist as part of a public school Columbus day celebration in 1892.

It caught on and became popular.

The “under God” part was added in 1954 under pressure from the secret Catholic fraternity, The Knight’s of Columbus.

There was much public opposition to this change, but because of political pressure as a result of the McCarthy hearings of the time, it was ‘“officially” adopted.

It became the law of the land and is now generally accepted as the “word of God” as expressed by “the Founding Fathers”.
The "Pledge of Allegiance was written by an American Socialist"? Do you have some proof? Post it.

I don't believe you.
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Old 01-23-2010, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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God bless the USA

God bless the USA

God bless the USA
OK, God bless, then!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuOBf-39t64
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Old 01-23-2010, 07:11 PM
 
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All of you who believe you don't care about your country (USA) I have a question for you:

How did you feel on 9/11/01? Someone who REALLY doesn't care would've simply shrugged on 9/11 (or at least adopt a 'hey it wasn't my city' stance). No?

Y'see, I think most of you folks actually DO care (at least to an extent). I think you care b/c let's say for example: There was an imminent invasion on US shores. I'd bet almost every American on C/D would defend their home.

Not liking, or expressing dissatisfaction with something is one thing...not caring about it is another thing entirely.
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Old 01-24-2010, 04:36 AM
 
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I couldn't help myself here: Ah...that "invisible Jewish Zombie (as you referred to GOD), was the creator of those laws of physics. If he chooses to suspend them at any time, he can.
Makes me remember my early childhood:

*pew pew pew*

"I killed you you're dead!"

"No I'm not, I was wearing invisible magic armour!"

"You're cheating!"

Let's also not leave out that a majority of the people deny evolution, something I don't believe you can say about any developed Western country. Prove me wrong, please.
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Old 01-24-2010, 04:38 AM
 
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All of you who believe you don't care about your country (USA) I have a question for you:

How did you feel on 9/11/01? Someone who REALLY doesn't care would've simply shrugged on 9/11 (or at least adopt a 'hey it wasn't my city' stance). No?

Y'see, I think most of you folks actually DO care (at least to an extent). I think you care b/c let's say for example: There was an imminent invasion on US shores. I'd bet almost every American on C/D would defend their home.

Not liking, or expressing dissatisfaction with something is one thing...not caring about it is another thing entirely.
Just because I don't believe the lives of Americans are inherently worth more than the lives of others(as seems to be de rigeur among jingoists) does not mean I don't believe they have worth at all.
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Old 01-24-2010, 07:18 AM
 
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And yet I still get entangled in political arguments for their own sake. I believe the masses deserve their misery. My favorite (abbreviated)greatest hits list:

A literal majority of Americans believe an invisible Jewish Zombie suspended the laws of physics and created the world in about a week. This is with the internet(free education), public library's(free education), and so on.


1 on 7 Americans are on antidepressants. Yes: we live in the greatest age in human history(if lack of sectarian violence, increased technology etc mean anything to you). Really digest that: 1 in 7 people are so utterly miserable that they lent themselves to a doctor(whom they don't know)to prescribe a drug(which they don't understand) to allow them to wake up in the morning without wanting to end it all.

1 in 5 Americans believe Sun revolves around the Earth.

The majority enjoy calling those willing to kill people they've never met for a cause they don't understand "hero's" for a vague sense of community.


I enjoy watching it all crumble. I suggest you consider the same approach, here and elsewhere.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Oww4Ap3YZA

This is why liberals are not Americans, as they believe the drivel above-

1. Liberals are godless. I would assume the "Jewish zombie" you were referring to is God. Liberals consider themselves enlightened by atheism. I would counter that the most intellectually gifted men I have encountered in science and medicine were not atheists.

2. Liberal are anti-military. Assuming that soldiers do not understand the reason they are fighting for our republic is a reflection of typical liberal arrogance in which the liberal assumes himself superior to all other citizens (this is why libs love fascist dictators) and that only they have the knowledge to choose what is right for everyone else. This is exactly the mentality we fought against when America established the republic and defeated a "fostering" colonial power.

3. Liberals feel the right to dictate the conduct of other people's lives, while not being able to run thier own lives. One in seven people on anti-depressants? What do you suggest? Take them all off medicines that a physician prescribed and discussed with the patient? Do you realize that anti-depressants are used not only for depression, but also many pain states as well? Should they be switched to narcotics in your esteemed medical opinion. Idiots should not discuss issues in which they are completely ignorant.

4. Sun revolving around the earth? Blame the liberal infested, teacher's union oriented, public school system. "Educating" children about gay marriage and ethnic minorities has become the mission of the public school system, while math, the english language, and science are ignored. Scrap the public school system and you will test scores on the rise again.


Hey- if you and the libs don't like the US, PLEASE leave. You are the reason the country is on the decline. Libs don't understand this at all, which is somewhat amusing. For example, New York, New Jersey, and large metro east coast cities are dumps infested with liberals. Oddly, many liberals eventually realize this and seek to move to other areas of the country, which are routinely derided by them. The lib does not realize that there is nothing inherently wrong with the earth under thier feet in the east coast cities-THEY are the problem, not the city. When they flee the cities, they take THEMSELVES with them. To paraphrase an old song, "You see no matter what you do, you can never run away from you". Do the country a favor and engage in mass liberal suicide.
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Old 01-24-2010, 09:29 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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do you really care about your country? I don't.

Now, do you Americans see the problem with this statement?

Can you understand why we are, where we are, right now?

If you don't care, get the hell out, because your destroying it for those that do care.
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Old 01-24-2010, 09:43 AM
 
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10 Most Suitable Countries for American Expatriates

Spain
Spain has a lower cost of living compared with central and northern Europe. Mix that with its dynamic location and lively culture and it’s clear why Spain has become a top destination for expats from around the world. The European culture will be familiar and accessible for Americans, and getting around speaking only english should be a breeze.

Spain also has historical and cultural wealth that’ll keep any expat’s mind afloat. Also, it’s become an extremely popular destination for college students.


10 Most Suitable Countries for American Expatriates | Expatify
There is a difference between getting around and LIVING and WORKING in Spain.. you will need to know Espanol..
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Old 01-24-2010, 09:53 AM
 
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Our founders were very religious. They gave God credit for this land. They prayed constantly. They sought to do what? Tell me again.
You are absolutely wrong.

"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law."
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity."
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

"But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

"In spite of right-wing Christian attempts to rewrite history to make Jefferson into a Christian, little about his philosophy resembles that of Christianity. Although Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence wrote of the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God, there exists nothing in the Declaration about Christianity.
Although Jefferson believed in a Creator, his concept of it resembled that of the god of deism (the term "Nature's God" used by deists of the time). With his scientific bent, Jefferson sought to organize his thoughts on religion. He rejected the superstitions and mysticism of Christianity and even went so far as to edit the gospels, removing the miracles and mysticism of Jesus (see The Jefferson Bible) leaving only what he deemed the correct moral philosophy of Jesus."

And here are more from others:

"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon, than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness, that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind." [SIZE=-1]- Thomas Paine [/SIZE][SIZE=-2](The Age of Reason, 1794-1795.)[/SIZE]

"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution." [SIZE=-1]- James Madison[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2](Memorial and Remonstrance against Religious Assessments, 1785.)[/SIZE]

"Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions, Doctrines and Oaths, and whole carloads of other trumpery that we find religion encumbered with in these days?" [SIZE=-1]- John Adams[/SIZE]

"According to the U.S. Dept. of Treasury, the motto 'In God We Trust' came about not at the time of the Constitutional Conventions, but due to increased pressures to recognize God on coins and money during the Civil War."


I think it is YOU who needs to do the reading.
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