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I don't agree with the whole "tarnishing his legacy" when it comes to his last 2 Super Bowl losses after beating the Bears.
Brady won 3 straight... then lost 2 straight to Eli. Is his legacy tarnished?
I would say that if I had to choose a Manning for a Super Bowl game I'd choose Eli due to the fact Peyton seems to get it done during the season but not the playoffs... and Eli is the opposite.
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Of course to Eli's benefit he has gotten to go up against the Patriots new school defense's in the Super Bowl. Not the early 2000 Patriot defenses that were actually good. Sometimes it is all about match-ups.
Peyton Manning is a good QB and I will give him that. I'm sure he would give up some of those numbers in exchange for another superbowl title though. There are QB's out there with lesser numbers but have more superbowl wins in their career. He have been in three superbowl with one win and two losses and a post-season record of 23-11. I don't know about the no QB ever can match his overall numbers statement. I'm sure someone must have said that about somebody before Peyton came along. The saying is, records are meant to broken and at some point in history somebody will eventually do just that.
There was this controversy about Eli. Was he "elite"? Those who wanted to shut the doubters up pointed to his two Super Bowl wins. But now we have Russell Wilson. What Eli and Russell had in common was dominating defenses. Maybe neither on of them is "elite". Don't have to be a Brady or Manning or Aaron Rodgers with a monster D. Frankly, I'd rather have an elite team than an elite QB.
Manning is still a top 5 QB of all time but I think this loss does two things. It eliminates any chance his becomes the greatest of all time and it opens up opportunity for other QB to overtake him. If Aaron Rodgers wins another Super Bowl I think we can start to make an argument for him being over Manning and who knows what other QB's in the future can do.
Reps to you OP! I agree completely, Manning is still a great quaterback. I don't think any QB would have done any better against that Seattle defense yesterday.
, and although I live in Tn, I'm not a fan of Manning nor his team (as in, I don't root for him).
But he remains, at a career long level, the Gold Standard of quarterbacks of the moden era. I would not compare him and those of prior eras, as the coverage was allowed to do more to limit receptions than, so it is apples and oranges.
But for this era, his legacy was hardly tarnished by the Super Bowl. The Seattle D was awesome.
P.S. Just saw the last post. I'm a Green Bay fan, but do not, even for a second, think all it would take is one more GB Super Bowl. I need to see Rogers stay right near the top in TDs, Passing %, Ratio of TDs to Interceptions, etc, for at least another 5 to 8 years before I'd rush to elevate him into consideration to Manning's level.
, and although I live in Tn, I'm not a fan of Manning nor his team (as in, I don't root for him).
But he remains, at a career long level, the Gold Standard of quarterbacks of the moden era. I would not compare him and those of prior eras, as the coverage was allowed to do more to limit receptions than, so it is apples and oranges.
But for this era, his legacy was hardly tarnished by the Super Bowl. The Seattle D was awesome.
P.S. Just saw the last post. I'm a Green Bay fan, but do not, even for a second, think all it would take is one more GB Super Bowl. I need to see Rogers stay right near the top in TDs, Passing %, Ratio of TDs to Interceptions, etc, for at least another 5 to 8 years before I'd rush to elevate him into consideration to Manning's level.
Versus Drew Brees or Tom Brady? What's the difference. Brees racks up awesome numbers, too. Manning was breaking Brees records.
Versus Drew Brees or Tom Brady? What's the difference. Brees racks up awesome numbers, too. Manning was breaking Brees records.
My order would be Manning, Brady, Brees, with 2nd closer to 3rd than 1st.
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, and although I live in Tn, I'm not a fan of Manning nor his team (as in, I don't root for him).
