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Old 02-06-2014, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Fairfax County, VA
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Guest, why not go and move back in with mommy and daddy? Live in their basement.
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Old 02-06-2014, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Agreed with this triple much.

I get it, OP. I think anyone who allows themselves to feel the full force of their existence in its imperfection will have an overwhelming moment when they want to explode the world and themselves along with it and for some people, that moment doesn't dissipate into an afterthought once they've gotten a good night's sleep. It continues to eat away at them until they run themselves ragged asking why and wanting an escape.

But why this is life as society put it forth isn't the question you should be asking. You should be asking what you can do to make this life better for yourself. You know what matters to you, you know what you'd rather be doing than this, understand that what you're choosing will be the road less traveled and the road less traveled will always be rough and ill-defined. That's the nature of the beast. There is no other answer.

Therapy, you could use some, but no one can counsel you into a different existence. All they can do is get you to a point where you're better able to manage the existence you have. Until that happens, don't waste your time cutting your skin against the status quo. You won't heal from it.

Check out some non-profits who might help you nail down your purpose, head to a hostel and ponder life with tourists while sharing a bathroom for $10/hr, look up groups of modern day nomads and off the gridders who could give you some insight into what living off the beaten path has been like for them and how they deal with wanting the basics of a roof over their head and food on the table and happiness in their hearts without the workplace conventions and salary slaving and all that other pesky stuff that a civilized, capitalist society functions better with but perhaps more happily without.

Or do nothing. Up to you.
Excellent advice. The OP is quite possibly suffering more from leaky abstractions than from laziness; I don't assume someone with his thought patterns is lazy. Some sense of entitlement or laziness can of course be in the mix, but his complaints about work are just a specialization on the more general complaint that life is unasked for, difficult, and feels disrespectful. These are things we have no control over. Life just IS. If it's that uncompelling to you, don't bring children of your own into the world and compound the problem. But it's useless and self-defeating to bemoan it. Adapt. Adjust. Reframe. Be the sort of person you'd want to be around. Seriously, the OP can't possibly imagine that someone who is constantly complaining about The Injustice of It All is someone THEY would want to be around -- ergo, no one wants to hear about his complaints. It is just the human condition. Work to make the human condition better, if it's so awful. Help others. Find meaning.
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Old 02-07-2014, 03:14 AM
 
Location: USA
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That's what drugs and alcohol are for. All my coworkers are either drunk or stoned. Hell, be lucky you have a comfortable job. I make 9 an hr and live in a motel.
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Old 02-07-2014, 05:55 AM
 
Location: northwest Illinois
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WHERE did the OP go in this discussion? All these posts, and all of sudden he's gone, hmmmm.
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Old 02-07-2014, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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WHERE did the OP go in this discussion? All these posts, and all of sudden he's gone, hmmmm.

He had to go to work.
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Old 02-07-2014, 12:11 PM
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WHERE did the OP go in this discussion? All these posts, and all of sudden he's gone, hmmmm.
I'm reading the posts...
Thinking about them.

Not really much more I can say.

Other than I appreciate the advice.
It's good. Very helpful.

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Old 02-08-2014, 01:11 PM
 
Location: SC
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I'm really confused as to why I must give up my time to another in order to be able to eat, live, and clothe myself. I'm on this giant ball with a bunch of other monkeys...and one day I will not be here at all...my time is slowly passing me by, leading me to inevitable nothingness...and you think for one second I'm going to allow any person or any group of people dictate what I must do with my time? It doesn't make sense to me that I have to spend half of my waking life doing something I don't want to do...in a routine...or else I'll be relegated to the streets...hungry, dirty and cold.

Don't get me wrong...I can be a hard worker..but it's on my terms, doing what I want, and getting money because of it has never been the goal. I rather wake up and read...or visit friends and family...or spend time with my wife...or write...or try to solve a problem...or anticipate one...or come to a realization, learn something..or meditate. I even like to think on how to cure cancer, or eradicate homelessness, or eliminate poverty. That's what I like to do, but I like to do those things when and how I want to, and not have them as responsibilities tied to me not eating if I don't.

So explain it to me why I don't get to live the life I want to live.

I've almost killed myself because of this...being told how I must live my life, or else end up homeless, up hungry and cold. I just can't bring myself to not live every second of my life exactly how I want to and when backed into a corner, I've nearly ended it.

I'm 24. Degreed. Have a business. Internship experience. And working experience. So, I'm not lazy. Or maybe I am...

I just don't want to do something I don't want to do for the next 40 years of my life. I mean, I'm dying here...I need to live my life. It's the only chance I'll get to, and someone dare make it so that I can't?

I hate it. I've shown up to work with tears streaming from my face, I hate it so much.

Advice? Other than go to a shrink and swallow a bunch of happy pills? This is no life at all.
I feel the exact same way. I think these feelings come from the fact people had always worked for themselves, growing or making what they needed themselves up until the 1900s, when the Industrial Revolution changed things for good. Think about all the people living "off-grid", growing their own food, harvesting their own electricity, fixing their own houses, etc. They always seem so peaceful and fulfilled.
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Old 02-08-2014, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Stephenville, Texas
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I feel the exact same way. I think these feelings come from the fact people had always worked for themselves, growing or making what they needed themselves up until the 1900s, when the Industrial Revolution changed things for good. Think about all the people living "off-grid", growing their own food, harvesting their own electricity, fixing their own houses, etc. They always seem so peaceful and fulfilled.
I don't know, living "off grid" sounds like a lot of work. Also sounds kind of expensive.
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Old 02-08-2014, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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I don't give a crap about money and I resent being forced to. Pieces of metal and sheets of paper that I can't make, yet that I need to live? That's garbage. I don't accept.

My focus right now is on finding a wife.

Why doesn't the world just let me live my life and trust I'll contribute to it in my own way? Instead, why does it want to make me hungry, cold, and destitute if I don't do as it wants me to? Who is making those rules? And what makes him think he gets to?

Someone may die because of this. Me. Or someone.
lol, oh boy.

good luck finding a wife with your attitude.
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Old 02-08-2014, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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I feel the exact same way. I think these feelings come from the fact people had always worked for themselves, growing or making what they needed themselves up until the 1900s, when the Industrial Revolution changed things for good. Think about all the people living "off-grid", growing their own food, harvesting their own electricity, fixing their own houses, etc. They always seem so peaceful and fulfilled.
yeah, living poor, isolated in one place , never having anything and never seeing the world.

how peaceful and happy...
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