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Old 01-08-2011, 11:45 AM
 
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From my understanding, many girl friends are willing to help their other girl friends with dates or casual acquaintances; yet, it seems you are claiming a double standard for your guy friends. Would your guy friend have had an "agenda" if you had set him up with one of your girl friends for fun? It seems, to me, that he would not have developed an agenda and you would still be friends with him.

You also seem to be confusing serious relationships with a simple friendship with a guy. It is not the same thing. Many women have that same, one track mind when it comes to guys and friendship.
No, I simply stated that I don't have single friends for the guys I know, to meet. That is why I mentioned the one time a guy I was friends with who happened to develop a relationship with one of my friends a couple years ago. I was happy for them, but later on, he clearly wasn't happy and he made his agenda for me very clear to me. Its a complicated story, but he was rude to me about it (I was still on and off with my ex at that time anyways) so why would I keep him around? Also the only single female friends I have, I don't know anyone for them to meet either. If that were the case, I wouldn't be single myself! lol That and these girls aren't into casual sex, at all so I can't even help my guy friends out in that regard, besides the fact that I find that tacky.

I don't know how you think I"m confusing relationships with friendships with a guy. If that were the case, I wouldn't have any guy friends, who I do friend type things with, which I described in my last post. There's a huge difference between friendships and relationships. I don't sleep with my guy friends, because again, that's tacky to me.
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Old 01-08-2011, 12:09 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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It just seems like a double standard since many women don't mind setting up their girl friends with acquaintances; in my experience, unless there is some ulterior motive.

I am not sure why you consider it tacky, to help out some friends who may not be as socially adept as you; have you met many guys who felt it was tacky to help a girl friend in "distress"?
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Old 01-08-2011, 12:15 PM
 
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It just seems like a double standard since many women don't mind setting up their girl friends with acquaintances; in my experience, unless there is some ulterior motive.

I am not sure why you consider it tacky, to help out some friends who may not be as socially adept as you; have you met many guys who felt it was tacky to help a girl friend in "distress"?
I see what you're saying. I know the guys I am friends with wouldn't mind a little sexual help if I can send someone their way, though ultimately I know these guys want a relationship. my friends never want casual sex so I don't help them with that. If knew guys they might like to date, I'd for sure hook them up and vice versa, but the fact is, I don't. And some of the guys I'm friends with are also in relationships themselves.
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Old 01-08-2011, 12:36 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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In my case, I probably would still be married, if my ex had been better at getting her girl friends involved. So, from that perspective, I think women would better off if they have or can meet some girl friends they can trust, if they value a long term, legally binding relationship as much as they claim.
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Old 01-08-2011, 12:37 PM
 
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In my case, I probably would still be married, if my ex had been better at getting her girl friends involved.
if you were married, why did you need other girls?
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Old 01-08-2011, 12:40 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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I can't be everything to my partner, especially in the information age. It was much easier when guys could be chivalrous by wearing shining suits of armor and hiring chastity belt makers.
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Old 01-08-2011, 01:01 PM
 
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That always works better when you have a petty cash fund for that purpose. I have noticed that I usually have a better attitude toward women (even the game players) when I can have an easy and convenient, short term, girl friend with benefits relationship; when I have enough money.

I am the opposite. I think that is too much time and effort.
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Old 01-08-2011, 01:45 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Are you a guy or a girl? I feel I don't get enough "hands on" practice with women sometimes. I would like to have better relations with women, and having a better attitude usually helps. I usually practice with hypotheticals whenever I can't fund a petty cash fund for those purposes. Otherwise, a better attitude is usually enough whenever I spend more time with women rather than less time with women.
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Old 01-08-2011, 04:24 PM
 
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Are women even willing to be real friends with nice guys? In my opinion, a real girl friend would not let a boy friend experience a lack of sex if she can help it, even if she needs to get her girl friends involved.
In my own experience, I severely doubt it...

From a girl, "Let's Just Be Friends" = "Get Lost" = kiss of death for *any* sort of relationship; friendship, romantic, or otherwise

Bottom line is, when they say "let's be friends", they don't really mean that, in the sense of real friendship, that is...
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Old 01-08-2011, 04:29 PM
 
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A good, nice guy usually means boring. Women like some drama and excitement in their lives, and I don't blame them for it. Life is too short to be with a boring person.
But what about kindness? Affection? Devotion? Commitment? Being trustworthy and 100% dependable?

Nice guys *usually* also have these qualities, in abundance.
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