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Old 01-07-2011, 11:23 PM
 
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Are women even willing to be real friends with nice guys? In my opinion, a real girl friend would not let a boy friend experience a lack of sex if she can help it, even if she needs to get her girl friends involved.
I have a lot of guy friends and while every last one of them has said they find me attractive, there's a line we don't cross, either cause the dating thing was brought up or its an unspoken thing we all know. The only time I will not be friends with a real nice guy is when he has a very clear agenda and still pursues it even after I said no. That is not a nice guy to me and I find that creepy. Other than that, the guy I become friends with could have hot friends I might wanna date! You never know.

I'm curious, Daniel, why so many questions? there a girl out there you like?
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Old 01-08-2011, 12:48 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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Nice guys are the ones that get left holding the ladies handbags....


sorry to say......
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:10 AM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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I have a lot of guy friends and while every last one of them has said they find me attractive, there's a line we don't cross, either cause the dating thing was brought up or its an unspoken thing we all know. The only time I will not be friends with a real nice guy is when he has a very clear agenda and still pursues it even after I said no. That is not a nice guy to me and I find that creepy. Other than that, the guy I become friends with could have hot friends I might wanna date! You never know.

I'm curious, Daniel, why so many questions? there a girl out there you like?
It has been my experience that some women are not as altruistic as some guys. Guys are willing to help out a girl friend, even if they need to get their guy friends involved. Why is that less true of girls who claim to be (or are willing to be) our friends?

Concerning the scenario you present and said no; why not ask him if you can get one of your girl friends to put her scent on him to factor for sex, so you can experience a better friendship with him? In my opinion, a (girl) friend should be willing to do that for a (boy) friend as a form of friendship.

I am trying to develop a better philosophy of life right now since I have very little money to go out on dates and stuff. I usually like women simply because they are female and can look so cute regardless of any clothes they may wear. I have been practicing not judging women by the clothes they don't wear, on the internet, in the mean time; simply to have a better attitude for when I do have enough money to go out and stuff.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Concerning the scenario you present and said no; why not ask him if you can get one of your girl friends to put her scent on him to factor for sex, so you can experience a better friendship with him? In my opinion, a (girl) friend should be willing to do that for a (boy) friend as a form of friendship.
Again, I don't understand your language. Are you saying that a woman should offer her friends to sleep with a man in order for her to maintain a friendship with that man? Good luck with that.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:21 AM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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I thought the scenario was that he is just a friend you had no sexual intentions with? Are you implying that you are trying to "keep him on a shelf", just in case? Is that what being a friend is all about?
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Old 01-08-2011, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Cardboard box
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This is why I just get hookers. Less hassle and non sense. You pay em, and they leave.
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Old 01-08-2011, 10:29 AM
 
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A good, nice guy usually means boring. Women like some drama and excitement in their lives, and I don't blame them for it. Life is too short to be with a boring person.
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Old 01-08-2011, 11:09 AM
 
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It has been my experience that some women are not as altruistic as some guys. Guys are willing to help out a girl friend, even if they need to get their guy friends involved. Why is that less true of girls who claim to be (or are willing to be) our friends?

Concerning the scenario you present and said no; why not ask him if you can get one of your girl friends to put her scent on him to factor for sex, so you can experience a better friendship with him? In my opinion, a (girl) friend should be willing to do that for a (boy) friend as a form of friendship.

I am trying to develop a better philosophy of life right now since I have very little money to go out on dates and stuff. I usually like women simply because they are female and can look so cute regardless of any clothes they may wear. I have been practicing not judging women by the clothes they don't wear, on the internet, in the mean time; simply to have a better attitude for when I do have enough money to go out and stuff.
Forgive me, I don't know what altruistic means, lol.

If a guy is my friend, I will treat him just like I treat my girl friends, only keeping in mind that he is a guy, not a girl. We do stuff together, I work out with one of them and one of these days we are going shooting out in the desert here, another I have given him rides to places when his car broke down, things like that. One guy (who I"m not friends with anymore because of what became an obvious agenda and turned into an ass) dated a friend of mine a couple years ago as they met through me. As for hooking up the guys with my friends? Seriously, every last one of my female friends are taken except two and I don't think either would hit it off with any of my guy friends that are single. That and I am not going to send off my friends to have sex with some guy because he needs to get laid..that's their call and they know how to find it.

You don't need money to go on dates..or not much anyways. It says you live in CA, what part? I'm sure there's lots of free things you can do where you live. I prefer creativity over lavish, expensive dates, it makes me feel special. Anyone can throw money around, but not everyone gets creative. Don't worry about judging whatever women you see. If you like what you see and she seems approachable, go talk to her. The worst that'll happen is you'll be back where you started, or you'll get a girl or make a new friend. You never know.
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Old 01-08-2011, 11:16 AM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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This is why I just get hookers. Less hassle and non sense. You pay em, and they leave.
That always works better when you have a petty cash fund for that purpose. I have noticed that I usually have a better attitude toward women (even the game players) when I can have an easy and convenient, short term, girl friend with benefits relationship; when I have enough money.
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Old 01-08-2011, 11:23 AM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Forgive me, I don't know what altruistic means, lol.

If a guy is my friend, I will treat him just like I treat my girl friends, only keeping in mind that he is a guy, not a girl. We do stuff together, I work out with one of them and one of these days we are going shooting out in the desert here, another I have given him rides to places when his car broke down, things like that. One guy (who I"m not friends with anymore because of what became an obvious agenda and turned into an ass) dated a friend of mine a couple years ago as they met through me. As for hooking up the guys with my friends? Seriously, every last one of my female friends are taken except two and I don't think either would hit it off with any of my guy friends that are single. That and I am not going to send off my friends to have sex with some guy because he needs to get laid..that's their call and they know how to find it.

You don't need money to go on dates..or not much anyways. It says you live in CA, what part? I'm sure there's lots of free things you can do where you live. I prefer creativity over lavish, expensive dates, it makes me feel special. Anyone can throw money around, but not everyone gets creative. Don't worry about judging whatever women you see. If you like what you see and she seems approachable, go talk to her. The worst that'll happen is you'll be back where you started, or you'll get a girl or make a new friend. You never know.
From my understanding, many girl friends are willing to help their other girl friends with dates or casual acquaintances; yet, it seems you are claiming a double standard for your guy friends. Would your guy friend have had an "agenda" if you had set him up with one of your girl friends for fun? It seems, to me, that he would not have developed an agenda and you would still be friends with him.

You also seem to be confusing serious relationships with a simple friendship with a guy. It is not the same thing. Many women have that same, one track mind when it comes to guys and friendship.
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