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Old 05-13-2011, 12:57 PM
 
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I believe that you "watch the news" and "read the newspaper" but do you understand it and put what you learn into practice in real life. That's the point of reading.

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Furthermore, you sound like one of those Noam Chomsky sycophants ("Sports are the opiate of the masses!"). But you know what? I watch the news, read the paper and surf the internet, and I do it five days a week in spite of how depressing and frustrating many current events are, so if you have a problem with me tuning out and escaping the other two days of the week, then tough.
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Old 05-13-2011, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Sports are good for kids actually. It teaches them social skills at an age where that barely matters.
And, too, there have been studies that suggest that one of the reasons that women had/have a hard time breaking the glass ceiling is that from an early age, boys and men are playing team sports that taught them teamwork, initiative, and social skills that translated to the workplace.

Of course, there is a difference between people who just watch sports and people who participate.

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Old 05-13-2011, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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Has anyone ever been in a relationship of any type with those types of weird sports fanatics who space out intently and blurt out comments to the television and rant and rave at the television as if they are "the coach" of their favorite team when they watch pro-football. Or when they watch hours and hours of it as if it is some highly entertaining movie and then they can recite sports history and sports plays and statistics like an encyclopedia to you? These types also like to approach everything in life as if they are "coaching" a pro-football team.
What are your thoughts on such people? I consider them to be boorish rubes but I was wondering if others had similar or dissimilar conclusions.
Accurate description of the decent, hard-working, patriotic American male.
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Old 05-13-2011, 01:09 PM
 
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I cant think of anyone who is a watcher that did not play sports...lol...can you...
I am seriously going through the list in my head and they all did something formal at some age.


Also another life lesson thats good from sports: learning to lose with grace, and never saying quit in the face of a challenge.

I personally was more of a player than a watcher. I even played on the boys baseball team because I thought it was stupid that they only had softball for girls. I thought it was sissy. I wore pink laces in my cleats just to tick the other team off and make them tease me for being a girl. Gosh how i loved showing up a pompous male even at that tender age. LOL

Interesting point on the glass ceiling. I think perhaps that from the social conditioning that girls are suppose to bend to another's needs instead of be aggressive to go for what they want.
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Old 05-13-2011, 01:35 PM
 
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Sports teaches you to be a pawn on a chessboard. It teaches collectivism: the individual is worthless when compared to "the team". It is antithetical to a healthy workplace which features individualistic competence over groupthink: just look at the statistics that states how miserable people are in their jobs. The majority of people loath their jobs: this is because groupthink is preferred at work rather than individualistic competence. When discrimination and unfair treatment occurs in the workplace most people stay silent all in the name of "team work". Anyone seen the DVD documentary Wal-Mart: The high cost of low price? Okay, I rest my case.

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And, too, there have been studies that suggest that one of the reasons that women had/have a hard time breaking the glass ceiling is that from an early age, boys and men are playing team sports that taught them teamwork, initiative, and social skills that translated to the workplace.

Of course, there is a difference between people who just watch sports and people who participate.

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Old 05-13-2011, 01:38 PM
 
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I cant think of anyone who is a watcher that did not play sports...lol...can you...
I am seriously going through the list in my head and they all did something formal at some age.

Agree!


Also another life lesson thats good from sports: learning to lose with grace, and never saying quit in the face of a challenge.

Yup, good sportsmanship...it translates to other areas of their lives as well.

I personally was more of a player than a watcher. I even played on the boys baseball team because I thought it was stupid that they only had softball for girls. I thought it was sissy. I wore pink laces in my cleats just to tick the other team off and make them tease me for being a girl. Gosh how i loved showing up a pompous male even at that tender age. LOL

I played on the boys soccer team until I was 13...I schooled a lot of boys on that field! Then the league passed a rule stating that there will be no mixed gender teams (largely because they were afraid of the girls getting hurt ...at 13 I was taller than most of the boys!). I tried the girls team for a few practices and realized they played like a bunch of girls...lol, so I quit.

Interesting point on the glass ceiling. I think perhaps that from the social conditioning that girls are suppose to bend to another's needs instead of be aggressive to go for what they want.
Good post

Edit to add that I yell at the TV when it's hockey season.
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Old 05-13-2011, 01:42 PM
 
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Be careful who you aggressively take advantage of. It will come back to haunt and destroy your reputation.

If I was every bullied, bossed around, controlled, or insulted by a woman in public school, college, or the workplace I always got justice and tore her reputation down into shreds.

Pulling a "damsel in distress" facade or "I am women hear me roar" won't protect you. I will be there to tear it down: if you get in my way. A lot of hyper-competitive women like yourself never learned about boundaries. You go into any situation and start aggressively dominating and micro-managing everyone without considering people's differences, concerns, and viewpoints.


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Interesting point on the glass ceiling. I think perhaps that from the social conditioning that girls are suppose to bend to another's needs instead of be aggressive to go for what they want.
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Old 05-13-2011, 01:43 PM
 
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So acting like a 3 year old is good?

Someone please explain to me in intellectual terms why this is good.

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Good post

Edit to add that I yell at the TV when it's hockey season.
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Old 05-13-2011, 01:47 PM
 
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Sports teaches you to be a pawn on a chessboard. It teaches collectivism: the individual is worthless when compared to "the team". It is antithetical to a healthy workplace which features individualistic competence over groupthink: just look at the statistics that states how miserable people are in their jobs. The majority of people loath their jobs: this is because groupthink is preferred at work rather than individualistic competence. When discrimination and unfair treatment occurs in the workplace most people stay silent all in the name of "team work". Anyone seen the DVD documentary Wal-Mart: The high cost of low price? Okay, I rest my case.
So all of this is the fault of football? The world was a effed up place long before football or any other sports became popular.
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Old 05-13-2011, 01:47 PM
 
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I'm a HUGE football fan, but I've always been able to keep it in check. I DO like guys who are into football also, as I would hate to date someone who looked at me like i was weird for liking it.

As far as I'm concerned, as long as someone doesn't get violent or angry when his team loses, or gambles big-time on games, I don't think there's such a thing as 'too involved with football' in my eyes.
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