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You made a good point. The op is a Transplant so his view of dating comes from a Transplants perspective. Everyone to some sort of extent is attracted or wnats to be attracted to the career driven women whether if she is white or not. Also white is a bit subjective because native white New Yorkers like ITalians and Irish are a farcry different than Wasps of the South and Midwest. I myself is also educated with a college background, but the big turnoff for many women who I might is where I live. Two being educated I started to have a disdain for ghetto women and I try real hard to avoid these types of women and a good number of them are stuck up. I already had a girl told me becuase of how I am that Im whack and she rather be with a hood type of guy, at least they can shop for a pair Jordans together at the local Foot Locker. Also in the hood there is a huge abundance of single mothers, huge amount, very curvy busty women. I would date of course these type of women but they have alot on thier plate from work 10 hour shifts and taking care of Justin, Geniseis, Maya, Joey, or SHamika or Patrick. Also there are alot of Immigrant women also in the outer boroughs aswell but tread with caution with Immigrant women.
Have you tried online dating Bronxguyanese? I'm not trying to be funny, but it seems to be a very popular route these days to relationships.
I haven't done it, but I think about it every now and then. The negatives that I hear from both men and women are the 20 year old profile pics people put up which is stupid since the person will see you in your CURRENT form.
All I know is that if I see a man that fits the physical face and body type I like, then when I see them in person they look vastly different (i.e., balding, fat, old, etc.), then I will promptly say my good byes and exit said date without a word. But trust, he would know this way before we'd meet.
I also agree that ethnic whites in NYC differ from wasps, especially from the midwest and the south.
I want to know why short guys are always getting crapped on. Not for nothing, but as a short woman, I personally LOVE short men. My bf now happens to be 5'11"...don't get me wrong, i love him, but I'd prefer to date someone shorter. 5'6" is the absolute perfect height for a man (IMO of course)
If it dosnt work out with you and your current bf........sup? 5'9 over here
I think people just generally want someone similar to themselves.
One would certainly think so;however, logic is not mankind's strong suit.
There are two factors at play here: 1. Women are often unable to accurately assess their market value--especially prior to the age of 30. It's not their fault, as men often lie to them to get into their pants. Men are often forced to utter all types of farcical drivel to date and sleep with women. If you tell an average girl that she is average you will likely not finish the date yet alone get a bj from her.
2. It is accepted and perhaps even expected for a women to date up. I can't help but think of Anthony Wiener or that other Republican congressman from NY who resigned. These men are at the pinnacle of American political power and are corresponding with cocktail waitresses, third rate porn stars, and a 30 year old overweight African American community college student. Monica Lewinsky, a porky creature that resembled miss piggy was able to service the most powerful man in the world.
Women can date and screw men well above their status. A very good looking man may be able to be the boytoy of an older wealthier woman but it is nothing more than casual sex.
One would certainly think so;however, logic is not mankind's strong suit.
There are two factors at play here: 1. Women are often unable to accurately assess their market value--especially prior to the age of 30. It's not their fault, as men often lie to them to get into their pants. Men are often forced to utter all types of farcical drivel to date and sleep with women. If you tell an average girl that she is average you will likely not finish the date yet alone get a bj from her.
2. It is accepted and perhaps even expected for a women to date up. I can't help but think of Anthony Wiener or that other Republican congressman from NY who resigned. These men are at the pinnacle of American political power and are corresponding with cocktail waitresses, third rate porn stars, and a 30 year old overweight African American community college student. Monica Lewinsky, a porky creature that resembled miss piggy was able to service the most powerful man in the world.
Women can date and screw men well above their status. A very good looking man may be able to be the boytoy of an older wealthier woman but it is nothing more than casual sex.
1. The above average effect (http://www.damninteresting.com/unskilled-and-unaware-of-it/ - broken link)is gender neutral. A majority think they are above average. 2. A majority do not date up or down. As another poster mentioned in a different thread, when it does occur it's quite the gossip since it's not the norm.
I wasn't talking about any sexual innuendo, I was talking about being down to earth. In my 20 years of living in NYC, I can say that your average white, 20-35 careerist Manhattanite is unapproachable unless you're in the same league, with a higher ranking (money) than her.
Hey, you've got a tongue. Start using it. To lie about your income
Seriously, if a woman is going to climb the ladder and then look down her nose at any man below her, why bother with her? If men took the same attitude the breed would die off. Fortunately for them, men often take the opposite attitude and won't consider any woman _above_ them, so little white Manhattanite children continue to be born :-)
You made a good point. The op is a Transplant so his view of dating comes from a Transplants perspective. Everyone to some sort of extent is attracted or wnats to be attracted to the career driven women whether if she is white or not. Also white is a bit subjective because native white New Yorkers like ITalians and Irish are a farcry different than Wasps of the South and Midwest. I myself is also educated with a college background, but the big turnoff for many women who I might is where I live. Two being educated I started to have a disdain for ghetto women and I try real hard to avoid these types of women and a good number of them are stuck up. I already had a girl told me becuase of how I am that Im whack and she rather be with a hood type of guy, at least they can shop for a pair Jordans together at the local Foot Locker. Also in the hood there is a huge abundance of single mothers, huge amount, very curvy busty women. I would date of course these type of women but they have alot on thier plate from work 10 hour shifts and taking care of Justin, Geniseis, Maya, Joey, or SHamika or Patrick. Also there are alot of Immigrant women also in the outer boroughs aswell but tread with caution with Immigrant women.
So you're a man without a country, in a sense. I feel you. In NYC, being educated without having money means absolutely nothing. But an educated person generally will not deal with hoodrats and hood bull****. Then, if you have a nice job and get something going for yourself, the average hood chick is not gonna wanna deal with the stuff that comes with that. Then, with people working so many hours to afford NYC rent, then dealing with the commute and you have the perfect storm.
as opposed to some jerks who couldn't keep their hands off my as after the first 5 minutes.
I agee that's loser style, but I once made a very direct indicent proposal to a stunning girl at the club, no I did not call her b***h or "hoe" but explained to her what I had on mind, expecting a slap on the face. I almost fell from the barstool when she said ok let's go to your place then and she definitely was no ghetto chick.
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Have you tried online dating Bronxguyanese? I'm not trying to be funny, but it seems to be a very popular route these days to relationships.
I haven't done it, but I think about it every now and then. The negatives that I hear from both men and women are the 20 year old profile pics people put up which is stupid since the person will see you in your CURRENT form.
All I know is that if I see a man that fits the physical face and body type I like, then when I see them in person they look vastly different (i.e., balding, fat, old, etc.), then I will promptly say my good byes and exit said date without a word. But trust, he would know this way before we'd meet.
I also agree that ethnic whites in NYC differ from wasps, especially from the midwest and the south.
No not really but I do have an account. Recently I tried Badoo and I met a single ghetto mom from Williamsbridge section of the Bronx shes in her mid thirties with two kids from two different baby fathers, shes latina btw. I only see her as a possible play thing at most. However I may not do anything at all because I dont like to hurt peoples feelings which is more worse than physical abuse. One thing I notice about online dating especially for women between 21-30 are lookign for an attractive man which is only good in the short run, us men we care to some extent but a lay is a lay, but for women if you look doofy or goofy, chubby face, too dark or too pale its a no no. Sadly enough many women on dating sites are not good looking themselves, so for the most part Im going to opt out of online dating. I still can never forget the myspace days when so many women used to put thier profiles on private, lol you ugly anyway!
1. The above average effect (http://www.damninteresting.com/unskilled-and-unaware-of-it/ - broken link)is gender neutral. A majority think they are above average. 2. A majority do not date up or down. As another poster mentioned in a different thread, when it does occur it's quite the gossip since it's not the norm.
Perhaps but the variable here is NYC.
In NYC you have such a diverse collection of people in a densely populated area that it's quite feasible that the cute CUNY drop out barista sits next to the MBA multimillionaire 28 year old options trader on the 9 train each am. They smile, they talk, they cohabitate.
The collection of very wealthy very successful people in Manhattan mixed in with those that exist to serve them often combines for a special cocktail.
In Wisconsin, where I am from, such large discrepancies of wealth, class, intellect, and education simply do not not exist;thus, the ability to date or even interact significantly with folk beyond one's peer group is very limited.
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