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Old 10-22-2013, 02:33 PM
 
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It may or may not have been off the mark, but the fact is that she was rude. I think it's more civilized to at least pretend that you think someone has the best of intentions b/c in fact they may. It's not fair to judge one person on what the 20 before him said or did.

Also, in your case, I'm thinking you were a bit jumpy. These guys didn't call in sex for a favor--they wanted to date you and have a relationship, and what is wrong with that? I mean, if you don't want to date these guys you are in no way obligated, but it's not fair to assume they just want sex when you said they want to be bf/gf.
Maybe I need to move, because pretty much every heterosexual single eligible male (young or old, but mostly older) in these parts is going to be expecting sex sooner or later if you go out with them, (i.e., agree to date them). This is why it's rather difficult for me to even navigate the dating pool here, because men expecting sex and women offering sex in return for a kindness rendered? I consider that prostitution. I don't see that as a viable life choice for myself. So while I'm not a bad looking sort, fit, reasonably attractive, employed church-going, connected to my community, I sit home on Saturday nights with my disappointment and my ideals.
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Old 10-22-2013, 02:38 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Maybe I need to move, because pretty much every heterosexual single eligible male (young or old, but mostly older) in these parts is going to be expecting sex sooner or later if you go out with them, (i.e., agree to date them). This is why it's rather difficult for me to even navigate the dating pool here, because men expecting sex and women offering sex in return for a kindness rendered? I consider that prostitution. I don't see that as a viable life choice for myself. So while I'm not a bad looking sort, fit, reasonably attractive, employed church-going, connected to my community, I sit home on Saturday nights with my disappointment and my ideals.
i feel you because my sister does the same thing , may I ask how old you are and if you dont want to tell me just let me know in a dm ....
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Old 10-22-2013, 03:22 PM
 
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In my honest opinion, some women need to get over themselves. When I approach a woman to talk to her, I just want to talk and I'm only being friendly. I never bring up sex at all. I offered to help a woman with a paper in my college class she accepted my help. She then said "I won't have sex with you." I looked at her with a wtf look. I said "I'm just being friendly to you and helping you, get over yourself." Seriously, why do most women think this way? Did it ever occur that some men are just being friendly to you? When I'm being friendly to a woman, that's it.
Many women do not assume this. The friendzone is evidence of that.

Most friendzoning happens because the guy never made it clear to the girl (early enough) that he had romantic and/or sexual designs on her.
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Old 10-22-2013, 03:52 PM
 
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Lol its also a term used for guys who always have the "wemon are weaker attitude" And thus always make excuses for there behaviors or come to the rescue so they dont have to be responsible. Im native lol.

Thou i agree we need to honor and cherish our sisters. It doesn't mean they can't be held responsible for there actions.
Precisely. Agree with that.
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Old 10-22-2013, 04:52 PM
 
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In my honest opinion, some women need to get over themselves. When I approach a woman to talk to her, I just want to talk and I'm only being friendly. I never bring up sex at all. I offered to help a woman with a paper in my college class she accepted my help. She then said "I won't have sex with you." I looked at her with a wtf look. I said "I'm just being friendly to you and helping you, get over yourself." Seriously, why do most women think this way? Did it ever occur that some men are just being friendly to you? When I'm being friendly to a woman, that's it.
This is a little extreme and she was a rude, but I do think most men have that motive. I just roll with it and see what happens.

I've had men ask to trade me mechanic services for a date, etc. it's just the way it is.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:02 PM
 
Location: NYC
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how many male strangers (or acquaintances, if you knew this woman a little bit) in the class did you offer to help with their papers?
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:25 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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Maybe I need to move, because pretty much every heterosexual single eligible male (young or old, but mostly older) in these parts is going to be expecting sex sooner or later if you go out with them, (i.e., agree to date them). This is why it's rather difficult for me to even navigate the dating pool here, because men expecting sex and women offering sex in return for a kindness rendered? I consider that prostitution. I don't see that as a viable life choice for myself. So while I'm not a bad looking sort, fit, reasonably attractive, employed church-going, connected to my community, I sit home on Saturday nights with my disappointment and my ideals.
Ok what is expecting sex mean? Further how is expectations for sex any different then dating someone and expecting it to lead to a commitment or marriage? Or the countless rules and expections on dating, like a man should pay etc etc. Or you won't get a commitment or marriage intell A,B,C is met? When did sex become bd?
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:26 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Maybe I need to move, because pretty much every heterosexual single eligible male (young or old, but mostly older) in these parts is going to be expecting sex sooner or later if you go out with them, (i.e., agree to date them). This is why it's rather difficult for me to even navigate the dating pool here, because men expecting sex and women offering sex in return for a kindness rendered? I consider that prostitution. I don't see that as a viable life choice for myself. So while I'm not a bad looking sort, fit, reasonably attractive, employed church-going, connected to my community, I sit home on Saturday nights with my disappointment and my ideals.

Did it ever occur to you that both the man and the woman both want to have sex with each other and really enjoy it? That is isn't a transaction of expectation and reward for anything at all?
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:32 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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Did it ever occur to you that both the man and the woman both want to have sex with each other and really enjoy it? That is isn't a transaction of expectation and reward for anything at all?
You have to realise that we live in a society that some ladies believe that having sex with you is, they are giving up something instead of a sharing something.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:41 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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You have to realise that we live in a society that some ladies believe that having sex with you is, they are giving up something instead of a sharing something.

I recall that attitude in high school, but thankfully I've not run into it since around that age, definitely not since undergrad. I can't imagine running into it as an adult. Those poor souls.
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