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Old 08-03-2019, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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It would be better to define Nazis as socialists, for example. Since that is part of their *official* definition. The National Socialist German Workers Party. So they are not even a part of the religious realm.
Stop showing your ignorance son. The Nazis were about as 'socialist' as Trump is.
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Old 08-03-2019, 08:37 AM
 
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again -- you're not the decider of who is a christian.

I don't believe that Nazism occurred because of christianity. However, you should read this article by the U.S. Holocaust Museum: https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/conte...the-nazi-state

Their conclusion is that, "After 1945, the silence of the church leadership and the widespread complicity of "ordinary Christians" compelled leaders of both churches to address issues of guilt and complicity during the Holocaust—a process that continues internationally to this day."

So you need to stop being dishonest about this issue and get on the right side of historical honesty, even when it hurts.
Absolute nonsense.
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Old 08-03-2019, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Absolute nonsense.
Are you a contortionist? I just wonder how you can so often have both hands over your eyes with your fingers stuck in your ears at the same time. It's amazing. Must be another of those biblical miracles.

https://www.facinghistory.org/holoca...and-nazi-state
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Old 08-03-2019, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Germany
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If your definition of "Christian" includes the Nazis, then the word becomes meaningless. All you are doing then is creating discussions for no real purpose or meaning.

It would be better to define Nazis as socialists, for example. Since that is part of their *official* definition. The National Socialist German Workers Party.
Socialists and communists were sent to the concentration camps. So the Nazis made their own political position illegal and sent themselves there?

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So they are not even a part of the religious realm.
Both the armed forces and the civil service had to swear to God when they made their separate oaths.

Perhaps if you researched something instead of simply inventing.
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Old 08-03-2019, 09:46 AM
 
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So it's okay for someone else to define Christianity, but not for me to? Okay, now I understand.
You are not asking to define Christainity but to be able to judge if an individual was a true Christian. Big difference, sorry that you cannot even see that.

I was never a Christian but then no one in my family going back several hundred years were. You may be shocked to hear that Christianity is not the only religion in the World. It's not gene the only religion that uses your God.
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Old 08-03-2019, 09:52 AM
 
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If your definition of "Christian" includes the Nazis, then the word becomes meaningless. All you are doing then is creating discussions for no real purpose or meaning.

It would be better to define Nazis as socialists, for example. Since that is part of their *official* definition. The National Socialist German Workers Party. So they are not even a part of the religious realm.
Do you also believe that North Korea is democratic because democratic is in its name or you just being dishonest about what the Nazis were. Or ignorant? And being dishonest does not support your goal of showing how great Christians are and being ignorant is not any better.
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Old 08-03-2019, 09:56 AM
 
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Do you also believe that North Korea is democratic because democratic is in its name or you just being dishonest about what the Nazis were. Or ignorant? And being dishonest does not support your goal of showing how great Christians are and being ignorant is not any better.
Stupid lies.
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Old 08-03-2019, 09:57 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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No, the atheists are the one who have the official forum definition. They keep it under lock and key and get worried if anyone dares to challenge it.
Apart from those who believe in Jesus (and we wouldn't even rule out those who see his as a human Teacher) we have no definition of Christianity- so far as i know. And I have known 'Us' quite far. I think you are simply throwing out accusations at random. The Christianity forum was told to stop denouncing each other as not Real Christians. I recall one thread or post asking for the atheist take on this and the concensus was that if someone called themselves a Christian, we wouldn't argue about that.

The only one who seems to take issue with whether other Christians are really Christian or not, is you. You seem smack out of line on this-as you have been with your last few dozen posts.

P.s I suppose there might be a case where we pint out certain Christians who seem to fall short, but that's not the same as saying they aren't Christian. Heck, I don't even call Mystic not a Christians, when his views would have had him burned 200 years ago.
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Old 08-03-2019, 10:01 AM
 
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Apart from those who believe in Jesus (and we wouldn't even rule out those who see his as a human Teacher) we have no definition of Christianity- so far as i know. And I have known 'Us' quite far. I think you are simply throwing out accusations at random. The Christianity forum was told to stop denouncing each other as not Real Christians. I recall one thread or post asking for the atheist take on this and the concensus was that if someone called themselves a Christian, we wouldn't argue about that.

The only one who seems to take issue with whether other Christians are really Christian or not, is you. You seem smack out of line on this-as you have been with your last few dozen posts.

P.s I suppose there might be a case where we pint out certain Christians who seem to fall short, but that's not the same as saying they aren't Christian. Heck, I don't even call Mystic not a Christians, when his views would have had him burned 200 years ago.
Don't play dumb. The atheists have an agenda of defining Christians as bad people. Maybe you really aren't playing dumb. Sorry but that's my honest opinion.
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Old 08-03-2019, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Don't play dumb. The atheists have an agenda of defining Christians as bad people. Maybe you really aren't playing dumb. Sorry but that's my honest opinion.
No. You're wrong...again. But let's face it, some self-professed christians are bad people.
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