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Old 11-21-2015, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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Yeah I guess I never got the memo that I would lose my sex drive, but for that matter I've had short hair since my early 40's, and sometimes just for kicks I get it cut really, really short. Sometimes I do it for the 'shock effect' (I love watching people doing a double take when they look at it) but also because I think hair should be fun and I refuse to conflate the style or length of hair with femininity. A few years ago there was a gal in her 40's who would jog past my house in running shorts with an awesome platinum blonde flattop, very much a "man's haircut" but it didn't stop the men in the neighborhood from stopping whatever they were doing to gawk at her as she ran by
Liza Minnelli, Julie Andrews, Judi Dench...all look pretty darned good to me.

You have to have a lot of confidence in your face to have really short hair.
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Old 11-21-2015, 04:30 PM
 
Location: RVA
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My wife never wears heels or tight dresses. That only defines TVs version of sexy, like a Sophia Vagaro (sp?) .
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Old 11-21-2015, 06:41 PM
 
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I could never wear my hair very short, as I have a million cowlicks, especially along the crown, and they would all stick up like Alfalfa's in the "Our Gang" comedies I used to watch on TV when a kid. Chin-length bob with bangs is long enough to tame the cowlicks.
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Old 11-21-2015, 07:13 PM
 
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I've heard two men say that that those boring prim soccer Mom hair styles and cuts on women indicate that "the women have given up".

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Old 11-21-2015, 09:14 PM
 
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I've heard two men say that that those boring prim soccer Mom hair styles and cuts on women indicate that "the women have given up".
What is a soccer mom hairstyle
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Old 11-21-2015, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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What is a soccer mom hairstyle
I was wondering that too, but if I'd asked that then I would have also had to challenge the value of poll results that consisted of the opinion of two people /sigh
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Old 11-21-2015, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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I was wondering that too, but if I'd asked that then I would have also had to challenge the value of poll results that consisted of the opinion of two people /sigh
I'll join you in not knowing what a "soccer mom" hairstyle is, but this thread is about opinions. Therefore there is nothing per se wrong with an opinion because it belongs to one person, or two people, or a small handful of people. From the beginning I have been in opposition to the idea that there is any right or wrong about this whole matter, especially as rooted in gender. I am still scratching my head as to why men's opinions about women's hairstyles provoke so much angry over-reaction as opposed to women's opinions about men's hairstyles, despite explanations which have been provided to me (but which do not make any sense). And yes, I know you (2sleepy) did not raise the male/female issue directly, but I came back to it because it is such a major theme in this thread.

For example, let's imagine the same original post, but written by a female who expresses her bewilderment about why certain males choose a certain hairstyle which they find somehow ridiculous, such as comb-overs. (Or it could be any hairstyle that the female OP doesn't like). As a male, that would not bother me in the least. It would be the female poster's opinion about a hairstyle, that's all. I might well agree with the opinion, but that would be irrelevant. It is not really a gender issue, and would be no reason for me to get angry.

Again, 2sleepy, I don't know if you've read the entire and very long thread, but there is a whole lot of anger, resentment, and defensiveness reflected in comments such as "Who gives a sh__ what you think?"
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Old 11-21-2015, 11:21 PM
 
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no anger whatsoever from me about the idea that wearing a boring prim soccer Mom hair style and cut means "the women have given up."

as I agree with that idea, in many cases!

And correct, Escort Rider, an idea can be expressed by one individual and that idea considered or not considered or thought about or not thought about.

This was not a poll. It's merely an idea expressed by two individuals who separately at different times expressed it to me. No poll necessary. They were expressing an idea.
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Old 11-21-2015, 11:59 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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I'll join you in not knowing what a "soccer mom" hairstyle is, but this thread is about opinions. Therefore there is nothing per se wrong with an opinion because it belongs to one person, or two people, or a small handful of people. From the beginning I have been in opposition to the idea that there is any right or wrong about this whole matter, especially as rooted in gender. I am still scratching my head as to why men's opinions about women's hairstyles provoke so much angry over-reaction as opposed to women's opinions about men's hairstyles, despite explanations which have been provided to me (but which do not make any sense). And yes, I know you (2sleepy) did not raise the male/female issue directly, but I came back to it because it is such a major theme in this thread.

For example, let's imagine the same original post, but written by a female who expresses her bewilderment about why certain males choose a certain hairstyle which they find somehow ridiculous, such as comb-overs. (Or it could be any hairstyle that the female OP doesn't like). As a male, that would not bother me in the least. It would be the female poster's opinion about a hairstyle, that's all. I might well agree with the opinion, but that would be irrelevant. It is not really a gender issue, and would be no reason for me to get angry.

Again, 2sleepy, I don't know if you've read the entire and very long thread, but there is a whole lot of anger, resentment, and defensiveness reflected in comments such as "Who gives a sh__ what you think?"
I've read most of the thread and commented more than once, here is one of my posts:

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I'm over 65, and my hair is very short and has been for the past 20 years. I have never been mistaken for a man and my husband loves it. But bottom line is, I have more important things to be concerned with than what someone else thinks, particularly when that "someone" is on an internet forum and in all likelihood thinks his comb over looks sexy.
I got a little snarky there , but I wouldn't have if the OP had just made a generic remark about how he likes long hair and wonders why some women like their hair short. But instead, the title of his thread is: "Women with men's haircuts in your senior years? I don't get it." and then he elaborates in his first post.. IMO it's slightly offensive and while I don't think anyone got nasty with the OP, but some people did push back, including myself, and I think it was justified.
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Old 11-22-2015, 12:17 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Beach
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Escort Rider - perhaps I can explain the anger to you. For us women, from the time we can process ideas we are bombarded with the message that you are being judged by how you look, how pretty you are and what men think of you. I know that men also feel this pressure but not to the extent of women. Many of us were raised in the era where we were considered a failure if we didn't get married by age 25. We were taught that the opinion of men was very important to our existence and many of us have resented it. It may not be rational-but it is very real. Now that we have reached the age (and the cultural changes) where we don't care about strangers opinions (or at least not care as much) we do get angry when someone criticizes our looks.
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