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Old 11-11-2015, 08:32 AM
 
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Wow great discussion, wrong forum oh well I guess along with retirement transplants there are forum transplants.
And to think they moved my thread on PSA tests!
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:36 AM
 
Location: South Texas
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Humans are not perfect, they need to be governed
And who governs humans? Other (imperfect) humans.

That is why we want as little government as possible.
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:43 AM
 
Location: None
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Well-written response, shows a real understanding of the "liberal" viewpoint.
"Liberalism is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality."

Without any labels, as I age I am more and more concerned with equality as a necessary component to freedom. Others may not think so.
Two quick reactions:

1) It's fine and dandy that you and others embrace a liberal viewpoint. You have every right to do so and I support that right. The problem is that people who don't share that viewpoint are forced to pay for it. Therefore, liberalism becomes a political philosophy founded on taking other people's property against their will. There's nothing fair in that proposition.

2) You wrote: "Without any labels, as I age I am more and more concerned with equality as a necessary component to freedom." You have that backwards. Freedom is a necessary component to equality. Without freedom you have nothing. Just ask people living in countries that are not free.
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:46 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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No.

But what she WILL do is take down the names of those who "voted against benefits for seniors and veterans" so that when she runs against them in a future presidential bid, she can wave their "poor voting record" around.
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Northern IL
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Wow great discussion, wrong forum oh well I guess along with retirement transplants there are forum transplants.
Exactly, well said.
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Old 11-11-2015, 10:39 AM
 
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Elizabeth Warren has great ideas and isn't owned by banksters.
Elizabeth Warren is a proven liar, a monumental hypocrite and a hard core leftist bomb thrower. Nothing good comes from such people.
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Old 11-11-2015, 11:17 AM
 
Location: None
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Elizabeth Warren is a proven liar, a monumental hypocrite and a hard core leftist bomb thrower. Nothing good comes from such people.
Well said.
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Old 11-11-2015, 11:27 AM
 
Location: NC Piedmont
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Elizabeth Warren is a proven liar, a monumental hypocrite and a hard core leftist bomb thrower. Nothing good comes from such people.
What about anonymous internet slander? Has she ever stooped to that?
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Old 11-11-2015, 11:31 AM
 
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Eliz Warren is in favor of spend, spend, spend.

Decries high tuition, but doesn't address huge salaries.
All I can tell you is that you can't get a business off the ground without investing (spending) money
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Old 11-11-2015, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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I can see this thread getting closed or moved rather soon. Who dared put political stuff into the Retirement forum, LOL.
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